Re: [EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous] Klemp Proves: Religion is Religion = Myth an...
An apparent contrast between the Lemuria timelines
in Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad Book One vs. Book Two, IMO,
seems connected to the Hindu Yugas.
Book One mentions these Yugas in the first chapter.
It is in the 3rd chapter, however, that spells out the root
races of the Earth (including the Lemurian).
In The Doctrine of the Eck Marg chapter from Shariyat-
Ki-Sugmad, Book One, the root races appear to be more
or less referenced in accord with classic history. However,
it is not until the Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad, Book Two, until the
timeline for Lemuria appears in context to the four Yugas
from Hindu tradition.
What this does is pushes the timeline way, way back
in my opinion). Millions of years, in fact! And in Book 2
the Polarian race that included Adom & Ede appears to
get eclipsed by Lemuria "thought of as the Garden of
Eden" (The Records of the Kros - 1st page).
Here, in Book Two, it also alludes to the continent of
Lemuria sunk by earthquakes and tidal waves 50,000
"[....] These records tell us that the legendary paradise
of man, thought of as the Garden of Eden, was laid on the
lost continent of Lemuria which was sunk by earthquakes
and tidal waves fifty thousand years ago. [....]"
[The Shariyat-Ki- Sugmad, Book Two, Second Edition -
1988, p. 107]
Then, just so many pages later:
"[....] The Tretya Yuga, or Silver Age, came after the breakup
of the previous age, when Lemuria, by earthquakes and tidal
waves, went down under the seas. [....]"
[The Shariyat-Ki- Sugmad, Book Two, p. 113, Second Edition
Supposing that Lemuria didn't come to an end until 50,000
years ago (whatever), then obviously Lemuria could not have
gone "down under the seas" before the Silver Age began so
many million years ago.
The numbers just don't add up unless Lemuria survived the
first cataclysm millions of years ago (IMO).
I've seen lots of dates in various traditions/mythology's for
the Four Ages and/or the Four Root Races. I'm not saying
that I know for certain which ones are correct. The point for
joining this topic concerns what the teachings of Eckankar
appear to say about the topic, along with what are my own
opinions/observations and/or understanding about it based
upon further research.
The lesson I learn from looking at the stories from the
Shariyat is to take another look at what it illustrates for
ancient Earth history. (BTW, ancient history is a favored
topic of study for me. One that I've been looking at for a
number of years now.) I'm learning to ask myself where
the information came from really, because it's common
when writing about ancient history for writers to quote a
previous written source. The reason is that nothing else
remains in the way of a living eye witness account, so
all you have to go on is what exists as ancient ruins.
Now, of course, if there were a spiritual traveler or an
all-knowing master with access to the actual truth, one
would probably not expect to find such widely-differing
illustrations of fact. Especially not ones that have to be
corrected years later, unless somebody put down the
wrong information to begin with.
Forgive me for writing at lengh on this one, but the
subject is a personal favorite of exploration.
Over the years when I see questionable, conflicting
and hard to believe information about ancient history I
naturally want to begin looking at its composition. In
fact, the history of the composition of history, where
the one does not necessarily equate to the other, or
writing it down in a book does not necessarily make
something out to be automatically true. No matter
what the name of the alleged author which, again,
writing down a word does not necessarily make it
real in the sense of "historically true". Bugs Bunny
is a historical truth, but the historical truth of imag-
ination! He is an imaginary character!
In other words, animation depends on a living
being to animate the imaginary character. When
the animator of the character departs, all that is
left is the history of an animation. In other words,
records which can be played over and over again.
They will never amount to anything new, but will
play the same pictures over and over again just
as they were first composed. New animations
amount to a new animator, IMO, compared to
the older forms on record.
Much that I have seen in the way of ancient
history was the product of imagination. Myths
are a good example of imaginary history, IMO.
Sometimes its bits and pieces of actual events
recorded along with what somebody imagined
to be the whole story - because they simply
couldn't remember, or they never saw the rest
of it. The whole picture.
Again, I think this happens with ancient history
because the people who actually witnessed it are
gone. It's as if the "life" were gone out of it and all
that remained were so many inanimate objects.
Books, stories, legends and myths. IMO, we can
animate the remains, but can we bring back the
actual life of the previous witness? Can we bring
back Paul Twitchell and ask him to explain what
he meant, and why?
Well, how about the people who wrote ancient
history, but at the same time were removed from
it by hundreds, thousands, or millions of years?
Or how about those who weren't, but who were
I think we have to research, investigate, and
rediscover the truth for ourselves whenever the
truth appears obviously incredible. Future gen-
erations might even come to thank us for it. In
my opinion. (Especially if we ourselves happen
to become those future generations.)
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