Yes, It's true! Johann Eck was a theologian and the
principle adversary of Martin Luther.
Just go to:
Select "E" for Eck and "L" for Luther and read
it for yourself!
Is this just a "coincidence" that a man named ECK
opposed Klemp's hero and "saint" (Luther)?
You can read about Luther's exaggerations, as well as,
his murderous accomplices and his hatred as ML took
a 'by any means necessary' approach to acheiving his
goals. Apparently, Klemp justifies the negative actions
of both Martin Luther, and of Genghis Khan in order to
envoke change. Klemp's real mastership is via the Kal
Yes, it's no wonder that Klemp, who attended a Lutheran
Seminary, uses quotes from the distorted King James version
of the Bible (that fundamentalists use) and has made
LUTHER into a SAINT along with GENGHIS KHAN!
Yes, just GOOGLE: "ECKANKAR: The Pursuit of God" to read
HK's article [it's on ECKANKAR.org].
Thanks Sharon for the two sites you gave:
Hi, Sharon and All!
Sharon, thanks for the info on eckankar and Genghis Khan!
I found a story Harold Klemp wrote called "In the Pursuit of
God," in which he references a few "saints," Genghis Khan
being one of the named historical figures. Here's an excerpt
of the article (much of it had to do with rabbits and squirrels
running around in Klemp's backyard, so I've snipped it--as
I'm sure many would like to snip his talks--LOL!):
Klemp wrote [on ECKANKAR.org]:
"The Light and Sound of God are the food and drink of SAINTS.
Do you need the reminder of SAUL of TARSUS on the road to
Damascusstruck to the earth by the Light of God? MARTIN
LUTHER, the great reformer, was also fortunate to see It. Then
there was GENGHIS KHANG, the Mongol conqueror of the thirteenth
century, who every so often would fall into a swoon for days,
able only to CHANT HU, an ancient name for God. In those trance
states, he saw and heard the majestic Light and Sound of God.
The Divine One spoke through the Holy Spirit.
So the highest form of speech from God to the more spiritually
advanced of the human race is the Light and Sound. "
Klemp must have been in one of his delusional swoons when
he came up with this idea! LOL!
In one of the early discourses back in the 80's, I remember doing
a double-take when a list of historical figures inspired by eckmasters
included Genghis Khan!"
I didn't see it personally, but heard they published a story
claiming an eckmaster was responsible for the fall of the Berlin Wall
and communism. Seems to me the story said Reb was riding in a limo
with a political leader, whispering in his ear...
In "Difficulties of Becoming the Living Eck Master", Twitch wrote
that he was going to write his own version of history.
Klemp is the worst-case example of successful cult brainwashing,