Re: Digest Number 922 (Eckankar's Membership Fee)
- Hi Mish and Sharon,
I have to admit that the EK "Outdoor" Chapel
shouldn't have cost as much as they claimed.
It seems HK had to pay triple (3 times as much)
in keeping with the EK Principle of the Threes
versus for the highest quality of materials,
functional architectural design and workmanship
of the structure. LOL! Another facade'! Eckists
love their imaginations and the illusions they
create and maintain.... forever and a day!
Why did a vice-president of the Eckankar Org
under Klemp like Todd Cramer leave the teachings?
Have other VPs recently (over the past year or so)
left the EK teachings too? I heard from a friend
who is close to a RESA that at least one VP did
leave EK. Did anyone hear something about this
and the reason why they quit the Org?
On another note: I can see why an outsider would
view Eckists as strange. Such is the case for any
"outsider" of a secretive organization, group, or
religion. Those "inside" see everything as quite
normal from their new found perspective. The thing
is... they will actually set aside and eventually
lose "other" connections, perspectives and insights.
Their new religion becomes an obsession as their
focus and attention narrows and is simplified to
what is only accepted within the confines of the
new and more private (secret teachings) of "higher"
Dogma within their religion. This is why critical
thinking is discouraged and why belief in
imagination fulfills the promises and desires of
And, let's face it - Americans and Canadians have
to be some of the more curious, trusting and gullible
people on the planet! How else could there be so
many religions, basically, full of the same old
nonsense but with a different wrapping! Incredible
>Interesting discussion about donations of time
and money to the cult (and other religious orgs)!
It basically seems to always come down to money,
and followers will readily give in that they
themselves see it as a way of financing their
way to heaven! Very delusional . . . and also
selfish when not caring enough about their family
in terms of providing inheritance--especially sad
in the story Sharon posted about the young children
being disregarded by their nutty parents's willing
all they had to eckankar and the liar Harold Klemp!
So,family values and concerns also go out the window
in such teachings--no responsibility for those one
should love the most!
>I also had a thought about how much eckankar spends
on buildings--do they really cost as much as they beg
for as expense? It would be nice to audit the books on
where the money actually goes. And in addition, I still
can't get over the gilded gold staircase in the ESC--too
ornate and garish for religious fanatics who try to present
humbleness in the teachings! LOL--as in big joke! : )
> >In the "Files" at Eckankartruth, there's
a typed copy of a glossy four-page brochure
the cult sent to all members probably in
the early 90's, "Eckankar, Donations, and
You".. The "temple" wasn't finished, and
Todd Cramer was still VP - he left the cult
since then. Altho it starts out recommending
that members give 1-3%, at the end it praises
tithing - giving 10%!
Some years back, I worked with a man who'd
lost his best-friend-since-kindergarten to
ekult. He told me that over the years, his
friend & the friend's wife changed sooo much,
all they thought & talked about was "the eck"
- he went to a few eckthings with them but
was *not* impressed, and his impression was
that it was all about money, and more like
a multi-level marketing sales scheme. And
what *really* upset him was when he learned
these successful professionals had left
*everything* to ekult, and had made no
provisions for their two young children.
He said he wouldn't have believed it,
but he saw the will.