Re: ECKANKAR: September 2007 "The H.I. Letter"
- Hi Steve,
Here are the keys to what you are looking for:
June 2007 H.I. Letter (first sentence)
"The Mahanta reaches out for seekers in surprising ways."
Sept. 2007 H.I. Letter (first sentence)
"Finding God is the sole purpose of your life."
> You are a very insightful writer. I enjoy reading your comments.
> It makes me feel better about the photos of Harry I have been
> posting at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/funwithharry/
> There are now over 120 pictures of Harry in riduculous situations.
> Drop by and have a look.
> Also, if you have it, could you post the 'word' for access what is
> Guidelines for ECK High Initiates
> Additional login required. User name is "eckhi" and password is the
> first word of six or more characters in the body of Sri Harold's
> article in the current issue of the H.I. Letter. (Password changes
> one month after each new issue is mailed.)
> --- In EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com, "prometheus_973"
> <prometheus_973@> wrote:
> > Hello All,
> > Klemp speaks of "Tomorrow" as he continues to make
> > promises that he can never keep. Have you ever seen
> > those whimsical signs stating: Free Beer Tomorrow!
> > This is pretty much the same thing.
> > ECKists are not directly told to use their imaginations
> > in this article, although, doing so is always implied
> > and KEY in regard to having "unique" experiences that
> > are actually common to Non-ECKists as well. There can
> > be NO comparisons to other realities, or possibilities,
> > when living with blinders on and within the bubble of
> > ECKANKAR's delusional dogma.
> > HK: "Finding God is the sole purpose of your life. In a
> > sense, it is like the old saying: 'All roads lead to Rome.'
> > ME: BTW-No "roads" lead to SPIRIT. It's still an Individual
> > "PATH." ECKANKAR is a "road" to Religion. And, the old
> > saying of 'All roads lead to Rome' was wrong anyway! It
> > was an exaggeration or pov because it only seemed like
> > this was true for their part of the world, at that time, and
> > from their limited and bias perspective. Then again, is
> > Klemp really saying, 'All roads (Religions) lead to Rome
> > (God)?' See, once again H.I.s are to fill-in the blanks and
> > imagine a happy version of a lower reality, EK, as being
> > the "Highest."
> > HK: "BUT first you needed to learn the reason for that
> > gnawing hunger you had inside you before coming to
> > ECKANKAR. With tiny, trembling steps, you made your
> > way into an uncertain TOMORROW."
> > ME: Is Klemp doing a review of his own past feelings?
> > Too bad that the ECK Youth never went through this
> > stage before entering ECKANKAR! On the other hand
> > I always knew the reason for my "gnawing hunger"
> > because I was a seeker of God/Truth at a very young
> > age. However, I didn't take "tiny, trembling steps" as
> > Klemp had. I, sometimes, went where angels feared to
> > tread and didn't concern myself with "tomorrow."
> > Perhaps, due to Klemp's advancing age, he is now
> > more fearful of "tomorrow."
> > HK: "TOMORROW always comes and then drifts on like
> > a dream that never was."
> > ME: Actually, "tomorrow" never comes because it lies in
> > an eternal FUTURE. There is always the PRESENT and the
> > PAST. This is the reality that we work with and use daily
> > in order to practice what we preach via life experiences
> > for Soul's unfoldment. If one can't get this reality right
> > then there's no purpose for Soul to escape in dreams
> > or other imagined "realities."
> > HK: "TOMORROW bows before all the TOMORROWS
> > to come. And they routinely appear until consumed
> > by no-time, no-space, no-thing. All gone!"
> > ME: Klemp seems kind of confused. "Tomorrow" only
> > exists in the realm of time and space. "Tomorrow" is
> > a Lower World Mental concept. "NO-THING" should
> > not be compared to a time/space concept even though
> > it SEEMS LIKE "tomorrow" is Eternal.
> > HK: "TOMORROWS are like spent booster rockets that
> > have lifted their payloads into outer space, then fall
> > away, unneeded."
> > ME: So! Klemp previously said that "tomorrows routinely
> > appear until consumed by... no-space, no-thing." Now
> > tomorrows "are like spent booster rockets" going "into
> > outer space." Klemp contradicts himself and doesn't even
> > see it!
> > HK: "You eventually come to see TOMORROWS for what
> > they are. They merely serve as doors, windows, or
> > instruments to help you on your way to finding God."
> > ME: Strange. Klemp mentioned that "tomorrows" were
> > consumed until they were "All gone!" Now "they are
> > instruments" like "doors, windows." ECKists will probably
> > explain Klemp's confusion in terms of a paradox. I'd
> > grab at straws, too, if I was still an ECKist! Besides,
> > haven't H.I.s already discovered their own truth concerning
> > "tomorrow" by now? I have! So, why is Klemp giving his
> > philosophy of "tomorrow?" Unless, it's on the minds of
> > the older chelas (himself included) as they fear the near
> > (tomorrow) conclusion of their lives. Klemp should have
> > much more fear than his trusting chelas. He knows that
> > he's a phoney and a liar!
> > HK: "So love the Mahanta. Trust him. For he is the
> > Wayshower, the one who has been there, found God."
> > ME: What ever happened to the ECK (SPIRIT) or to
> > SUGMAD? Or, is the Mahanta just a concept that has
> > nothing to do with Klemp. IMO Twitchell created the
> > "MAHANTA" for himself only. It's purpose was to Not
> > Only give himself ultimate authority and power over
> > his critics and chelas, while at the same time, he saw
> > this title or image as a model for Beingness and a goal
> > to be realized in the Here and Now by "acting as if" it
> > had already been reached in order to give it momentum
> > in an expanding reality. Unfortunately the concept only
> > led to more delusion himself and his followers in a
> > promised land called "tomorrow."
> > HK: "He can choose the right roads, pick the best
> > rest stops, and thus bring you to your destination
> > by the most advantageous route."
> > ME: So is the Mahanta now like GPS? Why is ECKANKAR
> > a Co-dependent religion like all others? When do H.I.s
> > achieve the promises of Self-Mastery and Spiritual
> > Freedom... TOMORROW! LOL!
> > Klemp then pads the rest of his article with comments
> > from The RESA STAR by three other ECKists and one
> > is a Second Initiate!
> > HK: 'Elizabeth,' a longtime High Initiate... says, 'In my
> > spiritual life, I'm searching for even deeper answers--
> > to life, to God--and then I find it all boils down to
> > oneself. We become master of ourself, and it is all
> > up to me. To living in the eternal moment, for it's
> > all I have.'
> > ME: Yes! There is no "Mahanta" other than Your Self!
> > Live in the eternal moment of NOW. Not in a "tomorrow."
> > It's, also, interesting that this longtime H.I. is still
> > 'searching for even deeper answers--to life, to God'
> > when she has had Klemp, the LEM/Mahanta, to lead
> > her and to teach her on the outer and Inner for 25 years
> > himself! Yet, she is still hungry for spiritual food!
> > What good and purpose does Klemp serve, unless,
> > it's only as a feel good distraction of more promises
> > fulfilled "Tomorrow."
> > Prometheus