PT's View of Initiation & Baptism
- Hello All,
In Twitchell's September 1, 1969 Wisdom Notes
PT speaks, indirectly, of his former Master Kirpal
Singh and of his former religious belief of Ruhani
Satsang. Twitchell was quite the hypocrite/preacher
when he manipulated his flock with his "expert"
opinions and philosophy of others and their views.
PT's holier-than-thou Pretense and Scam then
continued afterwards with Gross' and now with
Klemp's inheritance of Twitchell's fictitious and
plagiarized "EK" dogma.
PT: " it is interesting to note that MANY who
claim to have power of initiation are NOT BEING
DEVIOUS. They DO have SOME power of initiation
BUT only within their OWN LINE of teachership."
ME: The only "Power of Initiation" that anyone
has with or over others is what these religious followers
ALLOW their elite Preachers/Masters to have over them
via IMAGINATION, HOPE, and DESIRE. Twitchell's
comments should, also, be applied to himself, as well as,
to ECKANKAR especially when he states that there is
"Some Power of Initiation BUT only within their OWN
LINE of TEACHERSHIP." Yes, there is the fact of an
outer initiation rank which resembles a military/
hierarchical ranking, however, one Soul cannot truly
GIVE or INITIATE another Soul with Higher
PT: "For example, IF one is BAPTIZED into a Christian
Church, it DOES NOT mean that it is valid in the Buddhist
Church. It is ONLY VALID in the SPECIFIC CHURCH
giving the Baptism. So THE SAME HOLDS TRUE WITH
ME: Therefore, an Initiation in the ECKANKAR Church
is ONLY VALID in that "Specific Church." It's just as
PT: "The initiation given by ANY initiator is valid only
for that particular field of spiritual works. If ANYONE
claims A HOLD on the initiated for a LIFETIME or for
ETERNITY, then he is ALL WRONG. This is only self-
ME: Doesn't the Mahanta claim a "Hold" on his chelas
Forever! Do they EVER become free? Not is This Lifetime
or any other because even an EK Master is attached to
and works Under and For the Mahanta! Really! At what
Initiation Level does an ECKist obtain Spiritual Freedom
of the Mahanta? Not in this lifetime or ever! Twitchell
once again talks out of both sides of his mouth as he
deceives both himself and is followers.
If all 1st Initiates knew this most would never become 2nds!
PT: "When ANYONE tries to hold a person within their
own CHURCH, CULT, or RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATION
by claiming that an initiation is forever, by MAKING
THREATS, or BY ANY OTHER MEANS, he is NOT
giving FREEDOM to OTHERS."
ME: On the other hand it's okay for Twitchell and now
Klemp to make "threats" and to use "other means" to
intimidate High Initiates from leaving the EK Church!
PT: "This is particularly true of the Indian Religious
Groups where many of the leaders have NO POWER
of INITIATION at all."
ME: Paul's comment about "Indian Religious Groups"
and their "leaders" having No Power of Initiation must
also be true of ECKANKAR and of Twitchell because
EK (PT's con) was based upon the Radhasoami and
Ruhani teachings (or vice versa as he claims with his
slant/con of which came first the chicken or the egg
argument). There is NO POWER in any Initiation or
Baptism by anyone. It's a mental creation fueled by
the leaders' desire to have control over their own life
via controlling others and for the followers' desire to
have control over the pain of living and the fear of death.
PT: "If one is initiated upon first meeting the leaders
of such groups, then it is a case of being imposed upon
because the initiated hardly knows what the group is
ME: The same applies to ECKANKAR even after many
years of study! How can Chelas even know where ALL
of the money goes when financial records are kept private
and Chelas are discouraged from even bringing the question
up. Chelas are "handled" and brought back "on track" or
are "balanced out" when they do ask too many questions.
And, what about Gross the 972nd LEM/Mahanta? New
Chelas are never told the whole story of those 10 years
or that DG was chosen by Gail and the Board and that
HK was chosen by DG. Rebazar had nothing to do with
these selections after Twitchell!
PT: "When he wishes to withdraw, personality troubles
arise with intimidations and warnings of what will happen
if one leaves the respected group."
ME: Twitchell is talking about his former Master Kirpal
Singh and Ruhani Satsang! Isn't it ironic, for ECKists,
that Paul then turns around these warnings he received
from Kirpal and uses them against his Chelas!
PT: "All of this amounts to nothing. For IF such a leader
were as great as he professes to be, he would release a
Chela without question. This is The FIRST Law of God
Freedom of Consciousness and Decision. Woe to anyone
who interferes with this Law! He will have to Suffer the
Penalty of Spiritual Descent instead of Ascending."
ME: It seems like Paul is trying to insult his former Master!
Strange, that Paul is still carrying a grudge! Didn't PT get
his Tiger's Fang manuscript back from Kirpal in 1966?
Even Klemp mentions this fact on Eckankar.org. So, why
is Paul still pissed at Kirpal in 1969? Perhaps the memory
of this event surfaced, once again, as Paul was writing
these Wisdom Notes. However, PT kind of sticks his foot
in his own mouth as he puts down Kirpal for having done
the same thing as he now does to his own EK Chelas
with his own Meaningless Threats! Apparently, using
this standard, PT and HK have both made a "Descent"
into the Lower Astral Worlds!
PT: "One must Retain a Balanced Faith in Himself
and in God. He Should NEVER be Persuaded by
ANYONE who Desires to use him for his own Selfish
Purpose while AT THE SAME TIME trying to Help
Him Unfold Spiritually. These are Opposites of the
Spiritual Life and will Never Converge for the Chela."
ME: Isn't this what Twitchell did?! And how about
Gross and then Klemp?! Of course! The Chelas never
really saw how Paul and Gail covered up their selfish
Desires whether Material or Ego Driven and Power based.
With Gross one could see what they got! He lived large
and didn't hide it! But with Klemp, well, he learned
how to `Play the Game' when he was locked up in that
Mental Institution in 1970! Klemp LOVES Power,
his Ego, and having Control over others. This is why
Real Questions, especially about finances, are edited
out and censored. This is, also, why Darwin Gross'
name (let alone any discussion) is NOT to be Mentioned,
especially, at ECK Events. ECKists Are NOT To
Bring DARWIN's Name Up At The 2007 EWWS,
and NEVER ask to see how their Book Donation
Money and ALL EK Monies are spent!
The Ornate Buildings and Interiors are for two purposes.
They Cause Chelas (and mostly Klemp) to Feel Proud
that their ECKANKAR Religion is keeping up with the
"Big Dogs." And, It helps to both validate their belief
in their religion (the dogma) and, for Chelas, it validates
where, supposedly, most of the money is going. Hmmmmm,
I wonder what Klemp and the others are being paid now?
What properties, investments, health care, retirement
packages and expenses exist and for whom? What does
ECKANKAR (the Chelas?) own? Why should ECKists be
kept in the DARK and Not HEAR the Truth, unless, there
is something to hide? These are questions ECKists should
ask... except they know that they can't. They've been
"trained" not to and to prevent or distract others from
doing so as well. However, Truth on All Levels has to be
Known for Higher Truths to have a Foundation for Belief-
otherwise its all hearsay isn't it?