Re: My Eckankar OBE!
- Hello, Mish!
Very good experience - I liked it! :-)
> My husband (also an Eckist but with higher initiation) and I wereThose who are looked upon the most are often the most mean people.
> involved with a few Eck groups in our area. One H.I. woman who was
> also an ESA and quite looked up to by all members seemed to be
> overly friendly in my opinion with my husband.
In my regional Eck center there was a lady who was so deluded I
couldn't believe it, but apparently not many people apart from me
and my husband noticed that. Except the people whom she hurt deeply
without even knowing she did so. She was so convinced that
her "inner experiences" were right that she did really bad things.
She was - and is - a very active and respected member of the Eck
community, distributing hu-cards in buses and subways ... And of
course she became an HI eventually ...
> I noticed that whenoverly
> the Eck greetings were being made, she seemed to give him an
> warm and affectionate long embrace and that she would if seatedhis
> close to him would reach over from time to time to grasp or pat
> hand. In contrast, she was not as "friendly" with me. She was aliving
> single woman; however, she was engaged to be married and was
> with her significant other! : )Anyway, I do pay attention todetails
> and as time went on, I was less and less pleased with this woman'sYeah, that's always a good explanation for eckists. :-)
> friendliness with my husband. My husband thought she was quite
> spiritual and perhaps there was even a past life connection, yada,
> After one worship service, when again this woman had been overly
> affectionate with my husband in her greeting, a group of us went
> for lunch. We were seated at a long table, and this woman ended upwe
> sitting directly across from my husband. Of course, everyone was
> chatting with one another, and it was pleasant enough. But every
> once in a while, I would notice this woman reach across the table
> and clasp my husband's hand. She did this at least 3 or 4 times.
> Well, I didn't much like that display. : ) But I kept quiet. When
> were all finished dining and getting up to leave, I thought Iheard
> my husband say to this woman, "Would you like to come home withme?"
> This is what I thought he said. I was standing right next to him!if
> Well, it was too much, and I blurted out, "Why would you want to
> take her home?" I put an emphasis on "take," too! Well, everyone
> looked startled, and so was I! When I spoke those words it was as
> someone else was speaking outside my body. I felt removed from itIt seems that you grasped what was going on, but rather from her
> all and really an observer at this point.
point of view than from that of your husband.
> But in truth, my husband had asked her if she was going home after
> the lunch or something to that effect. Well, the woman, though,
> responded very quickly to me--she said she was not interested in
> sweetie because she had her own sweetie. I forgot to mention thatNo, no - of course not! HIs don't do that - just working out karma
> our local director, another H.I., was also present and came to the
> ESA's defense, and gave me a scowling eye and said certainly
> this "other" woman would not be flirting or something like that.
and learning "spiritual" lessons ... :-)
> Needless to say, I embarrassed myself, but I didn't apologize atall-
> -well, I was very flabbergasted as well by my outburst since itanother
> didn't seem like it was me speaking anyway--it seemed to be
> self! I couldn't apologize for that person, could I? : )Could not for sure! :-)
> Well, we all said our goodbyes. Of course, when my husband and I
> to our car, he had to ask me, "What was that all about?" He had aWell, what a happy end!! ;-))
> bit of a chuckle in his voice. I explained to him the whole thing,
> and how it felt like an OBE. We both broke out laughing, and were
> rather laughing our heads off as we even passed by the woman I
> had "offended." I think we both even waved to her as we drove
> off! : )
> So I guess my feelings/observations were not isolated to meI have never noticed that. What I did notice, though, was that most
> and me alone concerning this one particular H.I.!
> I wonder how prevalent it is for Eckists to be inappropriate with
> other Eckists in this sense?
of the eckists I knew were not fit for longer lasting or well-
working relationships. They all had more or less troubles. My
husband always said how lucky he was I wasn't an eckist when we
> I think some people have hinted at things happening at Eckseminars--
> where individuals have little affairs--maybe, just giving love ina
> very "spiritual" way! I'm not sure about that. I can't decidedon't
> whether this inappropriate behavior was intentional as learned in
> (confused by) the Eck teachings or that these individuals just
> know the appropriate boundaries. Thankfully, myI have heard talking about that, too, but I never have noticed
> experiences in Eckankar are rather limited.
anything. Well, perhaps I'm just too naive! But I think it does
happen very easily - you meet, you are on the same path, if you like
each other then you think it's from a "past life", it's "karma" - so
you have a common enough basis. And when it doesn't work out - well,
it's karma as well! :-)