Re: [EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous] What's Wrong With The Other One Third of ECKists?
- prometheus, you don't know how many times i have asked myself the question that you ask here: why is it that so many stay in eckankar? particularly the so-called higher initiates?and the short answer is the one you have already mentioned - they refuse to listen to their very own Inner Voice/True Self/Soul. BUT...i would not really call it a refusal. i would say they have an INABILITY to distinguish the Inner Voice/Soul from the mind, emotions, etc. each one of us posting on this site have experienced this battle. for us, Soul won. in the end, Soul won. and each of us knows eck friends who are engagrd in this inner battle at this very moment.but, alas, this is part of the journey. we must each come to the day when we have no other master before us but our own Center; our own central engergizing Spirit.zoey....
prometheus_973 <prometheus_973@...> wrote:
I, also, have to agree with much of what you have stated.
However, I'm not sure that I can agree that "ONLY TWO
KINDS OF PEOPLE GO INTO ECKANKAR AND STAY," and
that these two kinds are "THE SPIRITUALLY NAIVE, AND THE
EMOTIONALLY UNHEALTHY." These two kinds or groups
probably do make up about TWO-THIRDS of the ECKists.
However, there are many different "kinds" in the remaining
One kind, among the other One Third, are the uninformed.
Many have not heard of Ford's book "Confessions of a God
Seeker" or of his BBs or of these anti-Eckankar Scam Sites.
These ECKists don't know of the lies and contradictions.
Anyway, this might prove to be another discussion where
we look at other long-time H.I.s that really do know the
truth and yet they remain loyal ECKists. What do you think?
Did passivity and surrender and the ease of being guaranteed
a place in a higher heaven have something to do with closing
one's mind and refusing to see and hear Soul's own voice have
something to do with it as well? I know that I rationalized a
lot, and just focused on me without seeing that all ECKists
were part of the validity or NOT of the initiations. Even then,
I found ways to hang in there... until reading Ford's book!
thanks mish and leafeater. i feel, fundamentally, that an eck
group is an eck group. i will proceed from this belief when
dealing with my friend. for her sake, i halfway hoped that the
group in nashville might be something exceptional.
this is my opinion:
only two kinds of people go into eckankar and stay; the spiritually
naive, and the emotionally unhealthy. i do so hope that i am not
offending anyone who may read this, but i saw this again and again.
personally, i was both, naive and unhealthy. but let's face it, if
you go back 20 years, most americans were quite naive about
eastern spiritual ideas. it is easy to hoodwink a novice, an
innocent. when many of us found eckankar, we had never
encountered the esoteric-type ideas associated with eck literature.
we sho nuff did think we had found something wonderful, spiritual
gold, as they say in eckankar.
i do not believe that the typical eck community is any farther
evolved than the typical, say, christian community. perhaps far
less evolved. but due to the esoteric ideas and eastern exotic
language connected with eckankar, one gets the false belief that
they have something 'more', something 'special'. but in spite of
the eck stuff, many of us continued evolving as human beings, and
eventually we figured out something about spiritual process, growth,
learning, etc, and simply dropped eckankar like an itchy suit.
but there are many emotionally off-kilter people in eckankar. as
many have noted on this site, eckankar becomes an illusionary
little arena where they can play out their ego fantasies, etc. i
recently read a very interesting post by leafeater on this subject.
my own experience absolutely confirms everything he was talking
about. i saw, over and over, wonderful people lose all sight of any
authentic growth (in any area), and substitue it with a rabid, covetous,
desire to be a Higher Initiate, and thus enter the Ring of Elites. what
> Good points, and I agree completely.
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