Re: "The fox stands for power"--Sri Harold Klemp
- Well said Mish!
Stever is an Internet Vahana Leader who is supervised
by the Public Information Services Director at the ESC.
Unfortunately, for ECKANKAR, Stever and HU-CHAT
Cheryl and Company are among the shinning stars
and 'champions' of this religious scam. This fact, of
course, leads one to see the hand writing on the wall
as to the eventual demise of this Radhasoami/Ruhani
Satsang sect. There are few and far inbetween of those
H.I.s that have the combination of Golden Heart and
Higher Consciousness (with the positive by-products).
Eckankar is more The Religion of Rationalization, Delusion,
and Assumption. One could, also, throw in guilt, shame,
fear, submissiveness, and silence (for good measure) and
this along with the cover-up, lies, unbalanced behaviours,
vanity, and attachments to power just about sums it all up!
Therefore, how can anything or anyone not suffer from
these negative combinations? The future for Eckankar just
holds more of the same. That's why I support Stever and
Cheryl, and their Cohorts, to someday become RESAs! Can
you just imagine them as RESAs! That's like the Foxes
guarding the Henhouse!
>Steve Runfeldt likes to blow smoke where ever and whenever
he can! On Hu-Chat, it seems this H.I. leader does not yet
understand the message that Harold Klemp delivered in his
12/2006 H.I. Letter when he chastized eck leaders for behaving
badly like foxes. Steve R struts very much like the fox that
Klemp describes in that he enjoys the power position (un-named
but obviously evident) on Hu-Chat in controlling the discussions,
messages, who posts and when on this friendly eckist group.
Yeah, Joe Homsey, a true blue eckist continues to be
moderated since he joined in late Oct. Something must be wrong
with this eckist to continue to be moderated--tsk! tsk! It doesn't
seem that Joe could be called a "detractor" so why is he so
distrusted among his fellow eckists?? Strange indeed! : )
>Well, anyway, Steve R, even though he has not been listed as a
moderator on the S.O.P., is keeping himself busy pulling the strings
there--strongly, reining in the discussions, manipulating them and
throwing out "spins" several times a day--sort of nervous-like behavior
on his part as he continues to spout off! Here's a little spin that indicates
how fearful and distrusting the leaders are on Hu-Chat and it shows how
contradictory Steve R's spins are:
>"It is like this group, HU Chat. Just because the moderators of the
group do not want to entertain certain discussion topics because those
topics have been disruptive to group harmony in the past, does not mean
that people cannot talk privately among themselves or even start up a
new email group for that purpose. I would strongly oppose any attempt
to prevent anyone's freedom of expression."
>It amazes me that Steve R and the "other" mods do not recognize
themselves as the foxes HK laments and scolds. Steve R is either a
fool or just a blatant liar to state "I would strongly oppose any
attempt to prevent anyone's freedom of expression" while he
continues to do exactly that. Hey, he says we don't want certain
questions or discussions on Hu-Chat, but you have permission to
take those thoughts to private emails or heck, set up yet another
group. Yeah, he's not stopping anyone's freedom of expression at
all, that sly fox Stever R! LOL! Cause he can't prevent what takes place
off of Hu-Chat--in the meantime, Hu-Chatters must continue to
step inline to the goose-stepping H.I.s who patrol and control this
>Just to refreshen from HK's H.I. Letter (12/2006), Klemp wrote:
>"I was thinking about the constant struggle that exists between
love and power, even among ECKists. You look at such people
with their goose-stepping tactics and you wonder about them.
Sometimes they almost seem to be schizophrenic, with opposing
or antagonistic sides.
>On one hand, they are ever so loving and helpful. BUT on the other,
they are tromping on the rights of others with big, muddy boots.
Yet they can't see themselves." (unquote)
>Steve R and the other miscreants on Hu-Chat need to take off
those "big, muddy boots" and "allow the chelas to serve. Let them
unfold, so that their spiritual reward can be greater than any pot
of gold." (HK's words in quotes)
>These foxes, like Steve R, need to take down their roadblocks
that prevent others from enjoying and achieving their spiritual
freedom as well as their freedom of expression!
>In essence, all that Stever R is doing is expressing his own
personal opinions as if they are coming from the lips of the
mahanta. This second guessing of the mahanta is a common
trait among H.I.s as they bend, fabricate and cover-up the
truth behind Twitchell's eckankar. I suggest that Steve R and
other H.I.s re-read 12/2006 H.I. Letter and take to HEART the
words of their mahanta. They need to study and understand
why HK wrote that message for them, and apply its purpose
to themselves! Until the H.I.s understand what Klemp is telling
them, they will never achieve group harmony on Hu-Chat.
As for higher consciousness, that will forever elude these
clueless individuals who frequent, own and moderate