Confused Eckists can't even read HK's words! : )
Interesting to see how eckists on the Internet are
viewing Prometheus' posting of Klemp's H.I. News
Letter, "Dear Brothers of the Leaf!" They are so
confused that some are ducking their heads further
in the sand, closing their eyes and ears, by
applying the "Law of Silence." Rev. Peter Anton
chastized someone for re-posting HK's H.I. News
Letter over on Hu-singers. Below is what Rev. Peter
"Well, it isn't me talking as much as the principles
of Eck. This is from the Spiritual Laws of Life, by Sri
'The Great Ones, the Adepts of the Vairagi Order,
wish to come and go freely among the initiates, but
this means that they must be given complete
privacy and confidentiality. Thus, let it be a reminder
that the Law of Silence in our inner life is necessary
if we are to walk in the company of these travelers.'
'When you come to the state of self-mastery, it does
not mean that you now have license to do whatever
you please. It simply means that you now
understand the laws of Spirit as they apply to you.
You know the things you can do and the things you
cannot do. And while you make your way through
life with these guidelines, you also are being a
vehiclefor Spirit.' -- Danda, the Righteous Law."
The righteous Rev. Peter Anton would do well to
follow his own advice and keep quiet, instead
of criticizing. Plus, how is this pious eckist also
a minister in the Universal Life Church? Isn't this
against the eck teachings and practices?? Peter
really gets full of himself at times--a lot of times!
The thing is Peter is working hard at being a good
person, but he seems totally confused like so many
others about the practices and teachings of his
religion--eckankar. What he quoted above is
regarding the inner experiences--not the outer!
HK's message to the H.I.'s come from the outer, so
no law is being broken by posting his comments.
Actually, since non-eckists are posting this for the
benefit of the lower eck initiates, the eck spiritual
laws do not apply. LOL!
But what I find more amusing than the ducking out
of the eckists about HK's news letter is how HK is
once again placing blame on the chelas (H.I.s)
instead of taking ownership of these deviant
behaviors within the eck hierarchy. As Harry
Truman so long ago proclaimed--the buck stopped
with him. But not so with Harry Klemp! He is always
looking to blame others-it is his life long pattern.
Of course, an eckist like Cheryl will resonate with
some of his comments as she did with the "loser"
statement Klemp wrote in "Those Wonderful ECK
Masters" I have reposted once again below. If I
recollect correctly, when Jackie Harriz posted this
excerpt on Hu-Chat last January, Cheryl responded
by commenting how she resonated with those
words of HK. See, chelas like Cheryl really thrive
on the negative that she is exposed to. However,
now it seems that Cheryl is one of the "foxes"
Klemp is criticizing and scolding in his H.I. News
Letter. Poor Cheryl, she was only doing what HK
does so well himself. Yes, there are foxes outside
the hen house as Klemp points out, but the lead
fox is Klemp himself. He needs to take ownership
and correct his course before he can expect his
chelas to do the same!
But here's a thought for eckists--what if HK was
hoping that his newsletter would be posted on
the Internet? What if, he wants you all to read it?
And, finally, why be so afraid to read what your
master has written?
Here's the re-post about the chela losers:
--- In EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.
com, "mishmisha9" <mishmisha9@...> wrote:
This is a very enlightening excerpt from HK's new
book, "Those Wonderful Eck Masters," Chapter 11,
The Mahanta, the Living ECK Master--A Modern
Prophet SRI Harold Klemp (Wah Z), page 211.
As with the infamous postal worker story, once
again HK shows his unloving and nasty side. In
this case, if you dare to challenge HK's authority
or complain, this is what he calls you and this is
what he thinks of you, this so called loving
Read it and weep or read it and laugh--maybe,
it's a combination of both, but HK demands
respect and if he doesn't get it, watch out!
Here's the excerpt:
"Belief in the Master's ever-present company
relies upon an individual's degree of unfoldment.
Actual inner experiences help one move to a
greater understanding of the ways of divine
revelation. But if he chooses to hang on to shopworn
karmic debts due to, say, an inability to control some
mental passion or habit like anger, then his spiritual
momentum stops. It's that simple. Of course, a
headstrong follower always tries to fix blame on the
Mahanta, the Living ECK Master when his attempts
to advance in ECK come to nothing."
"But such an attitude changes nothing. The individual
is a loser and will continue to be a loser until he
adopts the practices of a winner."
"I'm used to such misdirected slings. They go with my
position. I realize that at some point an individual will
break free of his holding pattern and again soar higher.
It's when he's seen that all responsibility for his
unfoldment lies with him alone."
Interesting comments by HK. . .
First, HK will not take the responsibility for a
member's inability to advance in ECK, but yet
despite this, HK expects the frustrated chela to
continue to follow HK's leadership.HK claims the
chela is being "headstrong"--uncooperative!
Second, if the chela dares to blame HK for his not
advancing in ECK, HK calls him a loser. So, the
seeker not only is disappointed that ECK is not
working for him, but now he is being called a loser
by the big Spiritual Leader, Mr. Klemp! Slap!
Third, but then HK explains in the end that the
seeker's ability to unfold lies within himself--this
is the truth the seeker must discover. So, then, of
course, I have to ask why does one need those
"wonderful eck masters?" It seems obvious in this
"truthful" statement that they are not needed at
all. And, how about that karma HK is supposed to
be taking on for his chelas? How is it that this
karma and negativity which caused the lack of
advancement was not corrected by the all
Well, here again these are just more confusing
statements and also
unloving comments by Harold Klemp. Where is
HK's loving heart in this writing? Answer: It's not
there! He demands respect and obedience--of
course, he says he's used to those who complain,
but yet if he is, why does he call them "losers?" I
wonder why such an authority and world spiritual
leader LOL like HK can't just find and take the