Repost for CHER; True, Necessary, Kind?
- Found this one to be important enough to bring forward again! Though
I did notice this morning, that the Truth Seeker BB is being
revamped and currently under construction. So this archive from ESA
is an important message to keep around, just incase the BB from TS
archives will no longer be available!
--- In EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com, "eyesopen444"
> Hi everyone,
> I read this great post on the Truth Seeker site and wanted to
> it with you.on
> Have Fun.
> The eck Quote by Buddha: " True, Necessary, Kind"
> Hello, Priscus!
> Thank you for asking where I found the quote by Buddha. I read it
> page 349, in Julian Johnson's book, published 1939, "The Path ofthe
> Masters." Julian Johnson wrote: "A rule laid down by the nobletrue,
> Buddha is a most excellent one for all men to follow. He (Buddha)
> said that if you propose to speak, always ask yourself`is it
> is it necessary, is it kind?'" I used the quote, attributing it toIt
> Buddha, thinking that Harald might respond somewhat as you have.
> is an often used quote by Eckists, and even the eck singingbased
> vahanas, "The Hindu Kush Mountain Boys Plus One," wrote a song
> on it in the mid 80's and made the quote more popular andattributed
> to Eckankar. I did enjoy hearing this group perform on more thanone
> occasion. I agree that it is a fine quote; however, it has beenover-
> used in Eckankar when enforcing the Law of Silence, so it is aneck
> suppression tool. It's interesting, that at one time, JPT oncespoke
> of this as being the "art of silence." You may recall that Usuallyhimself
> Skeptical (Nacal) showed how Klemp did not follow this rule
> in regards to the Postal Worker story. I have been reading Klemp'sevident
> latest book, "Those Wonderful ECK Masters," and have noted that
> Klemp is now calling some chelas "losers," (found on page 211) so
> again it appears that Klemp continues to not apply this rule to
> In "Confessions of a God Seeker," Ford explains how Twitchell
> plagiarized from "The Path of the Masters," so it is rather
> that this quote is still another example of something thatTwitchell
> plagiarized from other sources in creating Eckankar. In movingaway
> from the eck experience, it does help to sort out what you foundfound
> valuable and be able to learn that those "truths" originated else
> where, and you can then believe that you might very well have
> them yourself in other sources which attribute them rightfully toto
> their originator. It is my conclusion, and a helpful one for me,
> realize that it is not necessary to credit and thank Eckankar foris
> spiritual growth, even though I had an experience there. Eckankar
> not a necessary stepping stone on the spiritual path.with
> To Patmc: I will mention again the yahoo group, Eckankar Survivors
> Anonymous. Usually Skeptical (Nacal), now using the pseudo
> Prometheus on that group, along with others are keeping current
> the latest eck shenanigansthe Mystic World, Youth Letter ofLight,
> HK's talks and latest writings, etc. The posts are open to thenot
> public for reading, both current and archived messages. One does
> have to join to access the posts, and a non member can post and/orseems
> ask questions; however, non member posters are moderated which
> fair enough. Also, the yahoo group Spiritual Survivor is moderatedanswers
> by Ed Kusi. It is a private site that is delving into some
> interesting spiritual discussions. To access the posts there, one
> must sign on as a member.
> Here's the links:
> Also, there are some groups in German:
> A newsgroup for Ex-Eckists and critical Eckists in German
> German copy of ESA: EckankarFragenAnonym (EFA)
> Critical Eckankar info in German-contains German translation of
> David Lane
> It isn't necessary to always agree with all views, but along with
> participating on TS/HCS, a Truth Seeker can find a variety of
> information and ideas that help a former Eckist to understand more
> fully his/her eck experience. It is good to have a variety of
> resources in order to maintain balance and more easily find
> to questions and concerns.
> Best Wishes,