Eckankar: The Wisdom Notes by H. Klemp ... June 2005 #1
- Hello All,
This will be presented in 4 (?) parts in order to save space and to
allow people to analyze the material. I will do a running commentary
on HK's extrapolations, but feel free to make your own observations.
HK: "Moving the ECKANKAR Spiritual Center onto the ECK campus in
Chanhassen has brought us all together--the head and body. This will
help us better reach the people who are ready for ECK. It's a
problem to reach people because, just like a fog, they have trouble
seeing a light from without. Now that we're all together in one
body, on one campus, reaching the right people should be easier."
ME: Perhaps, the real problem that Eckankar has in reaching
the "right people" is because Harold and his followers (Eckists) are
the ones in the "fog" and their "problem" is with Not seeing the
light from within! Or, is Harold saying, the more the merrier and
that all Eckists should move to Chanhassen in order to bring
everyone together? Are a few miles all that important for the great
Mahanta? By the way, it seems that Harold is saying that the ESC is
the "body" of Eckankar. That's a rather materialistic p.o.v.!
HK: "It depends on you, the chelas of ECK, to make it so."
ME: Yes, "make it so" number one (as Captain Picard would say)!
HK: "There's always the element of free will. We're not like the
Borg of Star Trek fame that march mindlessly. Each one of us has a
connection with the Sound Current and can choose to march in step
with the Mahanta, the Living ECK Master or to become impediments to
ourselves and others on the path of ECK."
ME: But Harold... there is no free will in the Eckankar Collective!
Everyone has been assimilated through the promises (inner
initiations and Eck Mastership), guidelines, and threats of exile to
an astral hell! Let's not forget that inner connection to the
Collective ("Sound Current") either. And, Eckists DO mindlessly
march in step with the King drone (the Mahanta). It's interesting
that HK came up with the "Borg" analogy... has he been browsing
Internet sites lately?
HK: "Now that we're all together on one campus, there will be a
greater unity of spirit. There's no longer a split in the body, like
in the split personality of some who've stepped off the path."
ME: Wait a minute Klemp! You just stated that being in Eckankar was
not like being a Borg, and that Eckists had free will! However, you
did mention how Eckists could become "impediments to ourselves and
others on the path of ECK." Did you mean that you too ("ourselves")
can be an "impediment" to yourself and to "others on the path of
ECK?" Maybe, on an unconsciousness level, Soul was speaking the
truth, and is looking in the mirror!
HK: "Those few, who stand on the outside now, have set themselves
above others. They think they know more than the Living ECK Master,
yet they pretend to have a bond with the Mahanta. In their minds
they try to split off the Mahanta from the Living ECK Master. But
it's reall just a schizophrenic split within themselves."
ME: Okay, who has stepped "outside" of Eckankar, but "pretend to
have a bond with the Mahanta?" Is this Michael Owens, or someone
else? It can't be Ford. Actually, Harold, those "outside" of
Eckankar have a much clearer view of reality than you will ever
have! And, it's not that people "think" that they know more than a
fake master (the l.e.m., mahanta), but it's that they really do!
You're a fruitloop! Look in the mirror Harold... you're the
HK: "They've simply come as far as they can. Their leaving weeds the
garden of ECK."
ME: It's interesting that there are mistakes or type o's made here.
Wasn't HK a proof reader at one time? Okay, it should say... They're
leaving weeds in the garden of ECK. But HK has said in the past that
the Kal pulls the weeds from the ECK garden. Therefore, Harold is
saying that he is the Kal! Once again, the truth of his unconscious
mind, and of Soul, speaks without the ego detecting it!
More will be posted later.
> HK: "They've simply come as far as they can. Their leaving weeds theHi Prometheus:
> garden of ECK."
> ME: It's interesting that there are mistakes or type o's made here.
> Wasn't HK a proof reader at one time? Okay, it should say... They're
> leaving weeds in the garden of ECK.
:-) No, this actually reads as it's written. "Their leaving weeds the garden
of ECK." means: they're weeds, and by leaving they weed the garden.
- Hi Leigh,
Ah yes, I see it now! My mistake. Yes, HK is saying that those
leaving are weeds, and that by leaving (or graduating) that they
are "weeding" themselves from the Eck garden. Harold's sentence
structure is not the best and has a lot to be desired. But, HK is
still implying that this is a negative or distortive act, therefore,
why doesn't the Mahanta weed the Eck garden? Or, why doesn't the
Mahanta show compassion for those whom he has labeled as having a
split personality (schizophrenic), and assist and protect them.
Where is the Mahanta's love, protection, and help? The truth is that
it doesn't exist and never has except in one's own mind. Perhaps, it
is this that led to the schizophrenic behavior as it has with Harold.
--- In EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com, "l2eigh"
> > HK: "They've simply come as far as they can. Their leaving weeds
> > garden of ECK."here.
> > ME: It's interesting that there are mistakes or type o's made
> > Wasn't HK a proof reader at one time? Okay, it should say...They're
> > leaving weeds in the garden of ECK.written. "Their leaving weeds the garden
> Hi Prometheus:
> :-) No, this actually reads as it's
> of ECK." means: they're weeds, and by leaving they weed the garden.