Re: ECKISTS NEED TO BE DEAF, DUMB, & BLIND TO FOLLOW KLEMP
- --- In EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com, "Sandra"
>*** A belated welcome to the group Sandy H. I can relate to your
> I am still an Eck member, for over 17 years. Yes I do point out the
> flaws of Eckankar. Though I now consider myself a researcher for
> spiritual truth.
story somewhat. I was a member for 30 years but would say the last
few months as a member, I realized in my heart I should have left
the path years before. I too did some research, and came to a
similar conclusion as you.
> My heart is still somewhat with the teachings. As I still findsome truth hidden within the passages of Paul Twitchell's material.
Although the more I research, the more I find, other peoples
knowledge being called Eckankar.
*** LOL yes isn't that a joke? Paul Twitchell did in fact lift
passages (more than what the Eck thugs want most to believe as I am
sure you have discovered) from numerous spiritual paths and
teachers, calling it Eckankar. Then Harold Klemp continues the lie
by explaining that anyone (usually a godman or religious scholar,
guru or master) can go and read from the great book of spiritual BS,
located at the Astral Library. Why would Paul Twitchell go to a
lower Astral Library to gather spiritual truth?
HK also claims that Paul was tasked with re gathering the teachings
from all four corners of the universe, and bringing it to the
waiting public. Claiming too that Eckankar went underground for
years, and that it was even called something else at one time!?
LOL They sure wouldn't want that to happen again now would they?
>Watch how the Eckists will now call you a detractor! Sandy, I
> I am trying to keep a rational objective thinking mind, as so many
> here keep reminding us. Though I am sure many Eckist do not see me
> in that way? Maybe, I will fit in just fine here at Eckankar
> Survivors Anonymous?
looked at your 360, and if I know some of these Eck Thugs correctly,
you are now among the ranks of the Kal force, losers and weeds....
Here are some of the comments from those highly evolved Chosen Ones:
"Perhaps *detractors* of Eckankar are the way they (we) are because
they are living in a spiritual desert."
"It's not like they (detractors)have some magical power or anything.
*** Hmmmm, wonder what that means? <VBG> Oh I bet it means we had
all of our initiations stripped and our awareness removed (human
intelligence kicked in) and we are now bodies walking around with
retarded souls.... LOL we have no substance or spiritual
enlightenment! What a cosmic joke eh?
"And who knows what they (detractors)have experienced in past lives,
either as Spiritual seekers or oppressors or or or ........."
*** Or or or what captain underpants? Isn't it funny how these
Higher Initiates think they are far more superior.... they never
were a detractor in a past life I bet? Only spiritual beings
advancing each life time to become enlightened, and God realized.
"I think it is important to remember that these folks (detractors)
are working from Human intelligence, and not from the intelligence
of soul. When one Thinks and writes and speaks with the intelligence
of soul, the Individual is enlightening, uplifting, engaging, and
carries with them The rhythm or cadence of words that speak to our
innermost being. Thus it is easy to dismiss the words of those who
speak from what is only of the mind or from what is only found in
the lower worlds."
"My problem with detractors is that I pick up the
Vibrations they put out when they were writing or
Taping their viewpoints. I can read only a little bit
Before my insides start churning."
"While the ECK cannot be harmed by words, it can complicate vahana
Efforts to have detractors bad mouthing the Mahanta and the ECK
works. Or maybe it serves a purpose, helping to prune the tree, so
*** LOL well Autumn is coming up, as well as the World Wide. Harold
neds a little help pruning his trees and weeds...
"The only Thing they (us detractors) "know" is 1) what David lane
wrote about as a student over 30 years ago, and 2) all the gossip
that has evolved over the years From disgruntled former members with
nothing else to do with their Time! <shrug> That's why it's
important for people to feel free to ask On groups such as this one,
about anything that they come across that Causes them alarm!
Personally I feel if these detractors "knew" Anything at all, they
wouldn't be "detractors" in the first place!"
*** OUCH! My stomach is just churning from these nasty words coming
from the chosen ones.
"I once asked someone who works at the ECK Spiritual
Center what they thought of the online detractors. The reply was that
Frankly, they are too busy working to pay much attention."
*** Well I beg to differ! They do in fact read from each and every
anti Eck group, including the unofficial, official Eck chat groups!
They have someone specifically do this and other mundane minimum
wage paying jobs.
>Thanks for the invite Sandy, I will email an invite for you to join
> Please join me at my 360 Yahoo page at:
Keep researching, and sharing your finds.