Yes, that is a good example of a person avoiding "life" situations.
It seemed to me that many eckists had very poor social skills, and
being in the org. didn't help them improve. But if you look at
Harold and his personal stories, his skills have been lacking as
well. This might be one reason why it would be difficult for some
eckists to leave even though they are aware of the lies and
deceptions pervasive in eckankar. In a way, some may be trapped by
their lack of self-confidence which impedes self-responsibility. Of
course, there are other reasons eckists will not leave, but that can
be another discussion!
--- In EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com
> Hello Mish!
> > I like your comments about the spiritual hierarchy and how
> > eckists seem to be. It always seemed to me in discussion groups
> > every problem a person had, no matter how trivial or immense,
> > one had to do was take it to the inner/surrender it to the
> > I could never figure out how anybody resolved anything in
> the "real"
> > world. If you were having a problem with a co-worker or boss at
> > work place, all you had to do was take it to the inner--and
> > outwardly as though nothing was amiss, because the beloved
> > was taking care of it for you and protecting you--or I guess
> > eventually the problem would just fade away, replaced by
> > else to take to the inner. My problem with doing this so much,
> > seemed, that we were not really connecting with the outer at all-
> > everything was given up to the inner. No balance of the two! And
> > seems that "life" was just passing by, wasted!
> You are right - I had this same impression, that they didn't
> with the real outer world. And it even seemed to me that the more
> inner experiences some people had, the less they could live their
> outer life! I remember one story that fits well into this context
> When one eckist was in the hospital, there was a lot of noise
> visit time because one other patient had quite a lot of visitors
> on top of this, stayed longer than the allowed time. This eckist
> badly needed her calm and quiet because she needed to recover from
> the surgery or whatever she had had. She wanted the visitors to
> so she asked the mahanta to help her. And, would you believe? A
> minutes afterwards the doctor came and asked the visitors to
> so she was very relieved.
> Well, I always thought she would have resolved that problem rather
> easily and more quickly - by asking the people directly ... :-)