Re: Looking for any eckists who were in Az in the early 80's
- Hi Judy,
I have that Eck World News article by Helen Frye! It's lying around
here somewhere. I looked for awhile, but can't seem to find it at
present. Yes, it's a very strange article for an Eck publication.
I didn't really know Pat or other old timer Eckists very well,
however, I did usually know the people who did know them well and
that's how I would meet Eckists like Pat (usually at seminars).
Yes, Darwin was a real trip! I had a friend who worked for him at
Menlo Park and was told that he got a little too friendly and
personal with the females at the office (ESC). And, that BB was a
real witch! Remember too that during these years Darwin was handing
out Higher Initiations left and right. Klemp got all of his Higher
Initiations from Gross and yet is deluded enough to think they came
via the Eck versus an agent for the Kal! Amazing, how Klemp has re-
written and sanitized Eckankar history to suit his current Kalistic
And sorry, most of the Eckists that I knew out West (Las Vegas area)
in the mid 1970's, or so, are dead.
shalequadoll chela1 wrote:
I quit eck after reading David lanes manuscript.I was in training to
become the mahdist in northern arizona.I have met a guy who is doing
research on Helen Frye and am trying to find anyone who read the
article in the mystic news that Helen wrote. It was not approved by
Darwin and they had a terrible fight about it. I cant remember the
name of the article but it was about sexual energy.
I adored Helen and went to Darwins trial here in Prescott when he
tried to get all of Helen's estate. He told so many lies and I am
sure he was on drugs as he was so arrogent and such a liar!!!!
I helped Charlie Wallace get the sky fire house for Helen's sister.
I dont know if anyone is on here that was in at that time but would
love to talk to anyone who was. I was very close to Pat Henderson
who now lives in Las Vegas and has altzeimers.
- Hi Judy, I am not from Arizona and although I no longer have any
Mystic Worlds I do remember quite clearly the article you are
>The essence of the article was that for centuries the priestcraftand leaders of society in general repressed the sexual expression of
individuals knowing that if they could subdue their sexual energy
they were more easily controllable.
>The article went on to assert that when expressed with Divine Lovesex could elevate the individual beyond the contolling and limiting
conditions of society into higher states of conscoiusness.
>If I remember correctly either that or the following edition of theMystic World had a disclaimer about the article saying it was the
expression of the writer and not the opinion of the LEM (at that
time Darwin Gross)
>I hope this helps to give you the essence of what the article wasabout.
-- In EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com, "Judy"
>in 1975 so I could be near the "spiritual center"in Sedona.
> Thank you so much for responding to my post.I moved to Prescott
> I was in eck before Paul died but was one of darwins students.which meant I was the one who did all the work here for seminars and
> I had been in eck for 9 years and was the area rep for northern az
Days of eck and held satsang classes.I had pretty much given up my
life for eck.
> When I found out the truth about paul and darwin and eckankar andsmashed everything in the eck center here and closed it down.
> The guy who is doing the sedonalegend link you sent is the one Iam trying to get info for.He lives near camp verde and had worked at
the old property when it became a park.He has so many pictures and
stories about Helen.We used to get a magazine called mystic world
news that had several articles in it that Helen wrote.I threw away
> all my eck stuff so dont have it.moved here from Indiana.
> Did you know Pat Henderson???Her and I were very close friends,she
> I will try and contact the person you mentioned and see if sheread the articleand can remember it.
> Thank you so muchin eckankar in Prescott???
> I still live in Prescott,did you know any of the people who were
> ----- Original Message -----eckists who were in Az in the early 80's
> From: Elizabeth
> To: EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 6:43 AM
> Subject: [EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous] Re: Looking for any
> Hello Judy,
> I lived in Arizona from 1979 to 1992. Maybe we have met, though
> was pretty young at the time.Ownership
> You can read about "Broken Promises and Opportunists, the
> Transition History of Jack and Helen Frye's TWA Get-A-Way: Smokemay
> Trail Ranch . . . at:
> Though if you were there in attendence during the hearings, you
> already know most of what this link contains.good
> As to whether anyone has a copy of the letter by Helen; I was a
> little eckists and destroyed most of what I had during theDarwin
> Gross era. Though someone could very well have a copy somewhere?as
> You might want to research the various links within this group,
> well as the yahoo group Eckankartruth. Sharon, the moderator,has
> compiled a wealth of information as well. She may be able toassist
> you? Though I am not sure if she is currently active with heris
> group, you can still read the messages without joining, since it
> open to the public. :-)with
> Another yahoo group you might find interesting is Conversations
> Twitchell. There is a guy by the name of David Parker that posts
> there from time to time, whom you may know? His ID is Tuzahu I
> believe. He resides in Arizona, and has for MANY years!