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Eckankar by any other name, still Eckankar?

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  • freetoseektruth
    From the official web site of Eckankar: The ECK teachings have been here from the earliest times, but they haven t carried the name of Eckankar. They have
    Message 1 of 2 , Jul 27, 2006
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      From the official web site of Eckankar:

      "The ECK teachings have been here from the earliest times, but they
      haven't carried the name of Eckankar. They have been brought out
      under different names at different times because they could not be
      presented openly, but at this point in history they can. So Paul was
      advertising himself in any way he could, and in general preparing for
      the future when he would use his talents to promote his books and
      articles on Eckankar." [end quote]


      Wouldn't inquiring minds would like to know???

      If the Eck teachings have been brought out under different names at
      different times because they could not be presented openly, but at
      this point in history they can.....

      ......when is Klemp going to chronicle the names the teachings went
      by? We no longer live in the dark ages, no longer need to hide the
      teachings, or the truth. So why not list these names oh Wise God Man
      of the entire universe?

      What is Klemp's reasons for not sharing this important information
      and history of the teachings? Could it be that the explanations
      given of Paul Twitchell gathering the teachings up from all four
      corners of the universe, bringing Eckankar "back together", is just a
      cover up of the literary theft / plagiarisms by Paul Twitchell? When
      in fact Paul's trip to the Astral Library is nothing more than a
      fairy tale / parable told by Klemp so he doesn't have to tell the
      real truth!


      ~ Free To Seek Truth ~
    • prometheus_973
      Hi Freetoseektruth, Yes, Klemp can t really trace anything involving Eckankar back beyond Twitchell because it was/is a scam! There is no evidence or true
      Message 2 of 2 , Jul 27, 2006
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        Hi Freetoseektruth,
        Yes, Klemp can't really trace anything involving Eckankar back
        beyond Twitchell because it was/is a scam! There is no evidence or
        true history of even Rebazar Tarzs. This fictitious master is key to
        Eckankar's existance! Rebazar, supposedly, was to have been PT's
        main teacher during The Tiger's Fang experiences. When did the fake
        Sudar Singh (970th LEM) die? The time-line doesn't match up with The
        Tiger's Fang account because Sudar should have been PT's master
        during this period (1955-1965) of time instead of Rebazar. Actually,
        Kirpal Singh is both Sudar and Rebazar and initiated Twit in 1955.
        Kirpal's name was changed in the TF manuscript when he and Twit had
        a falling out due to Twitch "twisting facts" and making
        embellishments as to his experiences in the Radhasoami God Worlds
        and Kirpal's involvement. It was just too far fetched and had too
        many inconsistencies for Kirpal to believe any of it or his own role
        which he could not account for.

        The Catch-22 of it all is that Klemp can say anything and it now
        becomes something for others to disprove. Of course, this is what
        other liars and scammers do as well. Anyone can do this - prove that
        they are liars! People have to investigate, think, and trust in
        their own abilities.

        According to the Eckankar Lexicon Geutan was the third great Eck
        Master and LEM/Mahanta who served in Lemuria. Perhaps the Eckankar
        religion was then named Geutanism! LOL! Prove that it is not so! See
        how the scam works - simple explainations for followers to accept.

        Prometheus


        Freetoseektruth wrote:

        From the official web site of Eckankar:

        "The ECK teachings have been here from the earliest times, but they
        haven't carried the name of Eckankar. They have been brought out
        under different names at different times because they could not be
        presented openly, but at this point in history they can. So Paul was
        advertising himself in any way he could, and in general preparing
        for the future when he would use his talents to promote his books
        and articles on Eckankar." [end quote]


        Wouldn't inquiring minds would like to know???

        If the Eck teachings have been brought out under different names at
        different times because they could not be presented openly, but at
        this point in history they can.....

        ......when is Klemp going to chronicle the names the teachings went
        by? We no longer live in the dark ages, no longer need to hide the
        teachings, or the truth. So why not list these names oh Wise God
        Man of the entire universe?

        What is Klemp's reasons for not sharing this important information
        and history of the teachings? Could it be that the explanations
        given of Paul Twitchell gathering the teachings up from all four
        corners of the universe, bringing Eckankar "back together", is just
        a cover up of the literary theft / plagiarisms by Paul Twitchell?
        When in fact Paul's trip to the Astral Library is nothing more than
        a fairy tale / parable told by Klemp so he doesn't have to tell the
        real truth!


        ~ Free To Seek Truth ~
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