The Mystic World 06/2006 - Ask the Master
- Hello All,
Unfortunately for Eckists Klemp Did Not use the Principle of the
Threes and only permitted one Eckist (instead of three) to ask
questions. Perhaps, Klemp's time management skills need honing? Or,
he simply doesn't see the need or care to answer questions - go to
the inner! : ) Also, everytime Klemp opens his mouth, as usual, he
inserts his foot!
BTW - This Q&A comes from the Eckankar Letter of Light and is,
therefore, another recycled story of Klemp's. Why can't HK be in the
NOW instead of always revisiting the Past?
Q: "Soul exists because God loves It. Soul has the Physical, Astral,
Causal, Mental, and Etheric bodies.
-How does this affect the karmic load, especially in reincarnation?
-When the physical body dies, how does this affect other bodies?"
Me: Doesn't this sound like a staged question from an ESC staff
member or by Joan? Actually, isn't the Etheric Plane just the upper
Mental? But, okay, how does the death of the physical body affect
the other bodies including the karmic load of Soul overall? Let's
see what wanna-be farmer/preacher/guru Klemp's opinion is of this
HK: "You suspect, of course, that somehow it works out."
Me: Maybe you could just refer everyone to where this is already
explained in the Eck works. Hasn't this little detail been covered
HK: "The individual Soul, you know, has a body on each of the planes
you mentioned, because a body can only exist in a world, or plane,
of like substance."
Me: Okay, okay we've already covered this! Well, I can see that
Klemp is padding his response to make it seem longer because he
doesn't have all that much information to share for explainations
and clarification of these two questions.
HK: "Now think of karma, whatever chunk of it happens to be on one
plane or another, as a schoolbag full of books. Each chunk of karma,
like one book, is like one part of a whole body of other karma
Me: How does this explaination of karma answer either question,
especially, for H.I.s who have resolved their karma (except daily
HK: This karma, as a collective whole, is all the lessons that Soul
(a person) needs in order to become a more godlike being."
Me; This is redundant! We already know this and so does the Eckist
asking the two questions! Besides, Eckists (Souls) achieving the 5th
initiation, according to Eck dogma, are more "godlike" than Jesus
HK: So when the physical body dies, any karma (like a book) not
completely learned is put in the schoolbag and carried home (in this
case, to the Astral Plane)."
Me: Klemp has still Not answered the questions! Besides, I thought
Soul continued to work off karma "inbetween" physical bodies on
other Planes. Actually, Soul is supposed to be working on karmic
lessons in multiple Astral bodies and on the other Planes
simultaneously! Klemp seems to overlook this - again and again!
HK: "There's homework between lives. It's a chance to review the
day's (or past physical life's) lessons, take them to heart, and try
to do better in (earth's) school tomorrow (the next lifetime in the
Physical Plane--perhaps on earth again)."
Me: As Soul, shouldn't one become more aware of all of those
simultaneous bodies being lived and not just one past physical
(earth) life? Sure!
HK: "At death the main karma, by which an individual was learning
the purity of spirit in an earlier life, moves to the plane above.
At rebirth, all unlearned lessons of that karma continue."
Me: This is inaccurate because we would all Not need to be here if
we kept moving "to the plane above" after every life. I notice that
Klemp mentions "purity" again but why didn't he capitalize Spirit?
Oh well, let's see if Klemp ever gets around to answering the two
questions or just does his Mahanta PR spin again!
HK: "As an Eckist you know there's a shortcut to this tiresome cycle
of karma and reincarnation. The Mahanta, the Living ECK Master
[Harold Klemp - moi] can show those with eyes to see and with ears
to hear a better way."
Me: Yes, the "better way" is one of imagination and delusion to
think that this phoney can promise anything. Let's face it. If
something "good" just happens then he (the Mahanta) takes credit for
it, and if he's sick it's because he's so loving and is taking on
your karma for you. BUT, if something bad happens to you then it's
your fault, besides, you need the purification! It's always win/win
for Klemp and lose/lose for the chela! Unless, of course, the chela
can rationalize and imagine that they are High up in the Inner God
Worlds. : )
HK: "Much of one's karma in daily life can thus work off in the
dream state. It's less wear and tear on the body."
Me: Well, that's really delusional! Eckists might as well become
recluses like Klemp. Apparently, Eckists can just be A-holes in the
waking state and have it expunged in the dream state! That's kind of
like going to confession on a daily basis - but is more convenient!
Eckists don't even have to remember the "dream" where the karma was
resolved! Cool! I can see why I once believed in all of this crap
too! It certainly is the EASY WAY! LOL!