Re: More comments on Initiators and Eck Spiritual Aides
- Hi Liz,
I love your posts! I'll do one to TS in awhile. Cross-posting these
or other topics in the ESA archives with, maybe, new commentary
would be great to share on Ford's TS BB.
Some of the biggest problems Eckankar has are with the "mostly" All
Volunteer missionaries (vahanas or "explorers"), local staff
("settlers"), Clergy, Initiators, ESAs, and RESAs. Unpaid part-time
volunteers that have only sporatic and limited training and
education cannot be very good representatives of a Church.
Actually, it's all a farce! There are NO Official Training Records
kept on anyone! Eckists should look around at others who are the
same initiation level and ask, "Why are we all the same level when
we shouldn't be!" The simple and easiest and factual answer for this
anomaly is that the initiation levels are: a scam; all about money;
depend on when one entered the pyramid e-cult; and, under which
master! Also, if Eckists don't pay that required annual donation
amount they won't have those "Higher" initiations, or future ones!
On another note: I always thought it odd that Eckists look down upon
the Astral, but will consult with Intuitive (psychic) Healers!
Funny, how the more politically correct term makes it all okay for
Eckists! My question is, "Why do Eck High Initiates consult with
psychics, i.e. Intuitive Healers?" One would think that they know
more or have access to information beyond that of an Astral Plane
psychic! LOL! Does anyone else see the irony here?! Therefore, this
is even more proof that Eckankar not only doesn't work, but is full
of dissatisfied and fearful customers. Where are the Eck Masters and
Mahanta, or those "Herbs, the Magic Healers" when these Eckists need
them versus consulting a psychic! Curious people want to know!
<smile> Then again, Klemp has had acute health problems before
Eckankar, as a lower initiate, as a high initiate, and still as the
LEM/Mahanta! Could it all be due to taking on O.P. karma? Nah! None
of it is! Just another Eckankar myth to continue the hoax!
Technically Eckankar and it's 3 Eck Masters obviously couldn't take
time out from their godly duties of the entire universe, to do the
initiations. So, they created the Initiators. Made more sense to
claim the HI clergy could be channels for the Masters and have them
do the initiations.
As for those Eck Spiritual Aides; they are no more qualified to
conduct an Eck Spiritual Aide Session than Lucy Van Pelt from the
Charlie Brown cartoons, though I like her better in that
What it takes to become a TRUE counselor or aide on the outside
world, Eckankar spends about 4 hours on a given afternoon training
someone to be an ESA! Or maybe it is now broken down into two 4
hour sessions for the training? Who cares.... it still doesn't
qualify ANYONE to give advise to someone needing help!
Well, now that I've got that off my chest, I am going to go have
lunch with my wonderful hubby! You all have a great day!