Rod of Eck Power vs. Staff of Eck Love
This post got me to thinking about some Eckie things. First, I
always thought it strange that a 12th Initiate LEM could demote a
14th Initiate Mahanta. [Forward from eckankartruth]
How does Klemp's "legal" move work within Sugmad's "Spiritual
Hierarchy?" Also, Gross Did Not change into a "Black Magician"
overnight! It more than likely took place during the time he gave
Klemp all of his High Initiations - especially the 12th as LEM!
Therefore, Klemp was Not initiated into the Vairagi Order by a valid
Living Eck Master, but into the agency of the Kal! This explains the
lack of empathy (love and tolerance) by Klemp and his twisted "Eck"
So, back to the Rod versus the Staff. Twitchell invented the ROD of
Eck Power. However, I find it curious that he needed to invent a ROD
for POWER (nlp?)! Have you ever heard the old saying of, 'spare the
rod and spoil the child?' RODS were used to spank and whip people
and animals, whereas, a STAFF could be used for support or to guide
or to "hook" a wandering lamb around its neck to pull it from danger.
Yes, this eck "rod" thing seems to be a pretext for pretending "as
if" one is guilty and unworthy and, therfore, needs to be punished.
There is definitely a master/pupil or master/servant thing going on
with Eckists and perhaps the "ROD" is a symbol to indicate that
Eckists must become passive flagellants. In flagellation pain and
pleasure are mingled. Therefore, there is a desire for pain and
suffering in a hierarchy of dominant and submissive relationships
within the Eckankar ranks. Lower initiates, especially, become the
spankee of the Powerful ROD that Klemp holds. They then create a
variety of fantasy senarios that some people enjoy as master/pupil,
master/servant, and then reverse the roles in their minds. This is
why some people will always rationalize and never relinquish their
pedestals. They live an "inner" life of their own choosing.
Anyway, Twitchell was on a Power trip. He valued Power over Love and
this is why he made his threats and warnings to chelas. There is no
support (only negativity) for those who have lost their "faith" in
their religion or the LEM/Mahanta. Klemp has followed the same
unloving behavior, as other Kal agents, while saying otherwise in
the Eck PR brochures. Some people talk of Love, but talk is cheap
for them. They think that they "know" better and claim to be loving
but they have No "real" knowledge or empathy. Give them enough rope
and they hang themselves everytime! LOL!
Hope you didn't mind the POV.
Someone at A.R.E asked:
Does Darwin Gross still hold Eckankar's "Rod of Power"?
I've been informed that he refused to return it after the office
decided to can him.
Darwin Gross has made the statement that he has reclaimed the so-
called Rod of Power from Klemp, as I recall having read.
Of course, Klemp denies this, and believes that he still holds it.
So, what we have is two masters who CLAIM to hold the Rod of Power,
and yet, according to Eckankar doctrine, there can be only one.
Darwin Gross was appointed by Gale Twitchell after Paul Twitchell's
death. Klemp was appointed by Darwin Gross, and then Gross was
summarily kicked out of Eckankar by the less than grateful Klemp.
Who does one believe? One master, Gross, is a person alleged to have
been addicted to pain meds and was accused of being a womanizer, and
Klemp is a person whose health has been in question. Some Rod of
Paul Twitchell was appointed by himself, unless one believes his
claims that Rebazar, whom no one can prove even exists, appointed
The spectre of Masters fighting amongst themselves over Power paints
a pretty picture of enlightenment, don't you think? Fighting over
the Power as if it were a cache of gold....my, my.
The Rod of Power is said to be pure spirit. Can anyone truly possess
such a thing as if it were property? Can Spirit be transferred, as a
kind of noble title? This is nonsense.
The real question is, does the Rod of Power exist? I would say it
does not exist as defined by Eckankar doctrine. We all have the Rod
of Power. It is our own being, our own selves as microcosms within
Let them fight over the scraps of power if they choose. Meanwhile,
enjoy life with the realization that the real spiritual power is in
everyone. No need to fight over it. There is enough to go around for
all of us. It IS who we are.
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- --- In EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com, Gnothe Seauton
>Twitchell invented the ROD of Eck Power. However, I find it curiousthat he needed to invent a ROD for POWER (nlp?)!
*** Thought I would post something to go along with what Prometheus
wrote concerning the Rod of Eck Power. And also to re-address Klemp's
EMR illness, and who he claims caused it. ;-)
"It is surprising that some ECK initiates never make a connection
between the Master's physical illness and their own spiritual
unfoldment. They think, Why is he sick? Karma? How many fail to
consider that an intense trial of spiritual purification among the
chelas and people everywhere goes first through the universal body of
the Mahanta. Those effects naturally show up in the Master's life as
health or other reverses." - Harold Klemp, H.I. Letter, March 1996
(Me) So basically it is the Eck Chela's fault for why Klemp is so
ill. (Klemp claims to be the holding tank for the Karma of the entire
Paul Twitchell writes:
"No master will ever take over the karma of anyone. He knows better
for it will destroy his own health and drive him into despair." - All
About ECK, page 43, Paul Twitchell
"The Rod of ECK Power gets too hot to handle beyond the time of your
mission and you have to let it go. Darwin had to let it go. Or the
Rod of ECK Power will burn you to a crisp. That means your health
will go to destruction. He (Darwin Gross) had to pass it. When my
time comes I have to pass it." - Harold Klemp, Eck H.I. Meeting, 1983
World Wide Of Eck, Los Angeles, California
(Me) So hey, I better mention where I found these quotes and add the
link just in case anyone might like to read more:
And to give credit to the person that did the original research on
the above quotes, you can find more from *Raphael* in the above link,
nearly all the way down the page to where it says "HAROLD KLEMP
Have a good weekend everyone!