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Even Casinos are Game for Eck Vahanas!

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  • ewickings@aol.com
    Casinos are no longer off limits to Eck Vahanas. Those little yellow Hu cards are turning up in MN casinos, while the Vahanas manage to slip a few coins in
    Message 1 of 4 , May 1, 2006
      Casinos are no longer off limits to Eck Vahanas.  Those little yellow Hu cards are turning up in MN casinos, while the Vahanas manage to slip a few coins in the slot machines themselves.  They gotta blend in right?  ;-) 
       
      They promise If they make any money, they will donate half their winnings....     
    • prometheus_973
      Hi Liz, Actually, this gambling/vahana work has been going on for a long time. Remember, Eckankar used to be based in Las Vegas! I knew a couple of people who
      Message 2 of 4 , May 1, 2006
        Hi Liz,
        Actually, this gambling/vahana work has been going on for a long
        time. Remember, Eckankar used to be based in Las Vegas! I knew a
        couple of people who were in HK's satsang class (he was the Arahata)
        and the one told me that she would casually sneak (distribute) Eck
        materials in the casinos way back then!

        I too did the same when attending Eck Seminars in Vegas! It's easy.
        Just go up to a slot, place your stuff (brochure or HU card) down
        next to the slot, drop a couple of coins in then walk away. Also,
        the restrooms (stalls and sinks) were other places I would leave
        stuff (teams, like for postering, were used too). Eckists can
        justify the gambling because they are doing the greater good and
        are "detached" from this passion of the mind. Eckists believe they
        work for the Mahanta and against Kal! However, this is the most
        subtle of Kal traps because the phoney LEM/Mahanta is really an
        agent for the Kal and one of the final tests for Soul!

        However, the casino thing works better if the Eck Vahanas are Not
        H.I.s due to the Four Zoas and the anti-gambling restriction. I
        guess that it works fine (for an Eckist to rationalize) if they
        donate the winnings to Eckankar. BUT, what about the losses, or is
        that seen as a donation too?! Maybe it's like donating the cost of
        gas and wear & tear on your car for those trips to an intro or to
        the Eck center for a satsang class, EWS, initiation, ESA session, or
        for an Eck business meeting!

        Except, the "donation" to a casino is directly related to gambling!
        However, I know of even RESAs who have put money into the slots and
        Not left behind a HU card or an Eck brochure! They will claim,
        still, that this is Not gambling as long as the winnings are donated
        to Eckankar! Dream On! I'm sure that they're keeping track of their
        win/loss totals too. LOL!

        Eckankar seems to increase one's delusional view of the world by
        always making more and more excuses for doing as one pleases - as
        long as the Eckist does everything in the name of the Mahanta they
        are karma free and are Not responsible under "normal" rules and law!
        What a joke... and it's on them! <smile>

        Prometheus



        Liz wrote:

        Casinos are no longer off limits to Eck Vahanas. Those little
        yellow Hu cards are turning up in MN casinos, while the Vahanas
        manage to slip a few coins in the slot machines themselves. They
        gotta blend in right? ;-)

        They promise If they make any money, they will donate half their
        winnings....
      • ewickings@aol.com
        In a message dated 5/1/2006 1:53:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, prometheus_973@yahoo.com writes: Hi Liz, Actually, this gambling/vahana work has been going on
        Message 3 of 4 , May 1, 2006
          In a message dated 5/1/2006 1:53:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, prometheus_973@... writes:
          Hi Liz,
          Actually, this gambling/vahana work has been going on for a long
          time. Remember, Eckankar used to be based in Las Vegas! 
          Even tho HK would like everyone to forget this fact! 
          However, the casino thing works better if the Eck Vahanas are Not
          H.I.s due to the Four Zoas and the anti-gambling restriction.
          My sister and I were chatting yesterday, when she mentioned our Mom and Step Dad who are HIs have been doing their vahana work in the casinos for the last three years.  Guess it just shocked me to think of *them* in a casino.  LOL  but then again they wouldn't get anywhere near a psychic fair to do vahana work.  Go figure....  <confused>     
          Eckankar seems to increase one's delusional view of the world by
          always making more and more excuses for doing as one pleases - as
          long as the Eckist does everything in the name of the Mahanta they
          are karma free and are Not responsible under "normal" rules and law!
          What a joke... and it's on them! <smile>

          Prometheus
          Sounds more and more like a Christian path  
           

           
        • prometheus_973
          Hi Liz, I think that most people tend to avoid what they fear or don t understand. Your Mom and Step Dad feel more comfortable around the casinos because it s
          Message 4 of 4 , May 1, 2006
            Hi Liz,
            I think that most people tend to avoid what they fear or don't
            understand. Your Mom and Step Dad feel more comfortable around the
            casinos because it's easier to understand (on the surface) and is,
            therefore, non-threatening to their beliefs. The psychic stuff is
            another matter. Just look at all of those California Eckists (and
            others) that are involved in a hodge-podge psychic and New Age
            beliefs and experimentation!

            Actually, I always found the psychic fairs to be fun! Although, some
            Eck booth volunteers tend to spend too much time at other booths!
            Yep! I've been on/in and set up tables and booths at civic events,
            street fairs, state fairs, psychic fairs, hotels, bookstores, health
            food stores, flea markets, at churches and in libraries, and at Eck
            seminars! I really got around at one time. Sometimes it was fun,
            sometimes Not - usually it was just boring and a waste of my time
            and/or satsang society money.

            The money, time, and effort (planning) was never worth the end
            result except for Eckists to socialize. Eventually, some Eck Vahanas
            realized that it was all just "Busy Work" to keep the servants,
            volunteers, and peons occupied and distracted while giving them a
            purpose and "mission." Burn-out is usually why most things don't get
            done, and why HK's "Guidelines" are taken so lightly and even
            ignored! Eck H.I.s are also told they are a law unto themselves!

            Thus, dropping some HU cards off at a casino gets one out of the
            house or apartment and is seen as helping the Mahanta with his
            mission. Eckists do what feels good and it also gives them a sense
            of purpose and of fulfilling the "outflow" for the "inflow" they
            believe they have received. Ignorance is Bliss... forever! <smile>

            Prometheus


            Liz wrote:

            In a message dated 5/1/2006 1:53:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
            prometheus_973@... writes:

            Hi Liz,
            Actually, this gambling/vahana work has been going on for a long
            time. Remember, Eckankar used to be based in Las Vegas!

            Liz: Even tho HK would like everyone to forget this fact!

            [P]: However, the casino thing works better if the Eck Vahanas are
            Not H.I.s due to the Four Zoas and the anti-gambling restriction.

            Liz: My sister and I were chatting yesterday, when she mentioned our
            Mom and Step Dad who are HIs have been doing their vahana work in
            the casinos for the last three years. Guess it just shocked me to
            think of *them* in a casino. LOL but then again they wouldn't get
            anywhere near a psychic fair to do vahana work. Go figure....
            <confused>

            [P]: Eckankar seems to increase one's delusional view of the world
            by always making more and more excuses for doing as one pleases -
            as long as the Eckist does everything in the name of the Mahanta
            they are karma free and are Not responsible under "normal" rules
            and law! What a joke... and it's on them! <smile>


            Liz: Sounds more and more like a Christian path
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