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Eckanker: 12/2005 H.I. Letter #3 ... No IFs, ANDs, or BUTs!

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  • Gnothe Seauton
    Klemp s hypocritical motto is: Do as I say... Not as I do! Months later, from this 12/2005 date, Klemp still does Not follow his own advice or has his
    Message 1 of 1 , Apr 25 2:52 PM
      Klemp's hypocritical motto is: Do as I say... Not as I do! Months
      later, from this 12/2005 date, Klemp still does Not follow his own
      advice or has his editorial staff follow these guidelines
      (instructions) either! This, in and of itself, tells volumns about
      the lack of character, lack of enlightenment, and lack of follow-
      through in this current LEM/Mahanta. The 2nd of the "Questions for
      the Master" in the April 2006 Letter of Light will demonstrate this,
      again, when it is posted. As a reminder to readers here are Klemp's
      statements and my comments.

      [A REPOST]

      This is where Klemp talks about NOT USING "Ifs" "Ands" and "Buts"
      WITHIN THE ECK COMMUNITY and forgets to follow his own advice in:
      the Letter of Light, The Mystic World, or this H.I. Letter! Or,
      perhaps Klemp is just all talk and is mentioning this quote from
      Kant to sound well read and intelligent like G.W. Bush his hero. The
      bigger question is, Why are these words okay for public use and NOT
      for Eckists (other than Klemp)? LOL!

      [HK] "Next, I need to translate those images into today's language.
      That's why much of my writing is simple. It leaves less room for
      misinterpreting and makes translating into other languages easier."

      [Me] The Shariyats Do Not use "simple" language and they are
      the "Holy Books" of Eckankar and are offered to the foreign public.
      Is Klemp thinking about simplifying them? It is not so much the
      language that HK uses as to the content. Klemp must be reading these
      posts for him to be so defensive about this and needing to explain

      [HK] "I take care to translate the images from the ECK to human
      language as accurately as possible. They flow through directly in a

      [Me] How does something "flow" in a "burst?" It would help if Klemp
      (the Mahanta) would use the correct choice of words! Perhaps he
      should have said that, They "come" through directly in a burst or
      that They "appear" or "manifest" directly in a burst. These sound
      better, make more sense, and are more accurate!

      [HK] "Many are sharing their ideas from the mental arena, and it
      uplifts people. I look at the ideas and thoughts of philosophers."

      [Me] Really! I though that all of these past ideas and thoughts were
      below the consciousness of the current Eck teachings! If the
      consciousness of Twitchell is lower that today's Mahanta
      Consciousness what about the past thoughts and ideas of non-Masters
      or even non-Living (in a physical body) Eck Masters?! What about the
      consciousness of the Shariyats?

      [HK] "One thing that strikes me about Immanuel Kant was something he
      said that acts out an appreciation for life, which shows gratitude
      in experssion. He said, no ifs, ands, or buts. By that he meant.
      make your statements clean and clear."

      [Me] The B.S. meter is starting to rise higher! Question: Why does
      Klemp view Kant's opinions so highly? I don't!

      [HK] "Suppose one, for example, says to a student, 'Study hard if
      you want to make your degree.' Kant says, forget the stuff at the
      end. Say just, 'Study hard.'

      [Me] I think that the "if" is just giving emphasis and focus to the
      point being made... Study hard for that degree. Actually, some
      people don't even have to "Study hard." Both comments are simply
      opinion and is probably based on past experience and observation.

      [HK] "When someone says but, its a nail in the coffin of invention.
      A constant stream of contradictions shuts off creativity and a gift
      that may be offered. And when someone says but, he's stopped
      listening. So be aware when using if. And especially when using but,
      because it's limiting. Move straight ahead. It throws a condition
      under your feet that is a trip wire."

      [Me] Trip wire? Nice military jargon Klemp! Is this keeping it
      simple and helping to translate your words into other languages? LOL!

      [HK] "This is pretty much for ourselves, because in dealing with
      others, you may need to use if, and, or but."

      [Me] So, Eckists should Not use "if" in order to give emphasis to a
      topic with one another, however, it's okay to use "if" with the
      public! And, Eckists should Not use "but" with one another because
      Klemp says that it is used with "contradictions" and "shuts off
      creativity and a gift that may be offered. However, "but" is okay
      for public use!

      [HK] "And is better because it doesn't limit and is a building

      [Me] So why mention "and" in the first place? Oh, I know! Kant
      mentioned "and," thus,  HK would have to leave this out of
      his "philosophical" quote otherwise. Not too clever!

      [HK] Yet, IF someone's trying to make plans for you, then you may
      need to say, 'But I don't want to." They have no right to make your
      plans." [My caps]

      [Me] Notice the "IF" that Klemp just used! For Pete's sake (not you
      Peter! LOL!) Klemp can't even get through his own article before
      contradicting himself. I guess that nothing applies to him as it
      does to everyone else. HK must be above the law! Not really! This
      just goes to show how much of a control freak he really is, and, how
      much his words can be trusted! They can't! <sigh>

      p.s. Thanks Mish ... I'll post this from e-mail and get the next Q&A up as soon as possible.

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