HK's 2006 Eck Springtime Seminar Talk (part 3)
- BTW: Klemp was doing some reminiscing (due to Easter) and shared
some lyrics of his favorite "beautiful" Christian (Luthern) hymn.
The hymn is titled "Like the Golden Sun Ascending" by Thomas Kingo,
1634-1703. Klemp, also, recited the following lyrics for the
audience, "Like the golden sun ascending, Breaking through the gloom
of night, On the earth his glory spending, So that darkness takes to
flight..." The rest of the stanza, that Klemp omitted, is: "Thus my
Jesus from the grave, And Death's dismal, dreadful cave, Rose
triumphant Easter morning, At the early purple dawning.
(part 3 continued)
[Linda, HU Chat]: The next story was about 17-year-old Kara, who was
an active instrument for the ECK. She led a workshop for youth,
which was attended by a girl named Tracy from Colorado. During the
workshop they did a spiritual exercise in which participants were
invited to meet ECK Master Yaubl Sacabi on a mountain top.
[Me]: Actually, I believe "Cara" was 17 1/2 years old! HK mentions
that there were two 17 1/2 year old girls in his stories.
[L]: Tracy¹s question was to ask the ECK Master, How will I be able
to afford to go to college? Yaubl Sacabi reassured her that all was
well. Tracy then asked about her purpose in life, and Yaubl Sacabi
told her to be aware of the gentle breeze that was blowing.
[Me]: I'm told that Klemp mispronounced "Yaubl" once and called him
[L]: After the exercise, Tracy asked Kara for clarification on this
second answer of Yaubl Sacabi's, and Kara told her that the gentle
breeze was the "breath of God."
[Me]: I can now see where Klemp got the title for his talk. Too bad
that he couldn't come up with something himself, BUT I figured he
had "borrowed" it from someone else... again! <smile>
[L]: After the workshop, Kara heard that Tracy and her mom had been
checking out Eckankar and ECKists in general, and that they may
[Me]: I'm sure that HK would like to have more resource material.
[L]: Lisa from Australia lost her first child, a daughter, at the
age of only three months. She understood that her daughter¹s
translation represented some karma that had needed to be paid, and
it taught her to value life even more. During her daughter¹s short
life, Lisa had done was to sing a certain song to her daughter,
which she only Sang to the child, and to no one else.
[Me}: However, Klemp doesn't state what kind of Karma, whose Karma,
or the purpose of the Karma! Why leave out details? There is more to
a story or to life than it being all about one person!
[L]: Seven years later, Lisa had another child, a second daughter.
When she sang the little song to her second child, the child
recognized it, saying, "You used to sing that song to me"! This was
Lisa¹s proof that reincarnation is real.
[Me]: Yes, but Eckankar has no copyright on it! Darn! That would be
a real money maker! LOL!
[L]: Lisa later recalled and early childhood memory of her own in
which ECK Master Gopal Das came to her when she was a little girl.
Sri Harold paused in his storytelling to remark that all of these
stories are about the Breath of God, which gives us life. The
Breath of God is the blessing of life, which is only possible
because of the ECK or Holy Spirit. As the Christians say, the Word
was made flesh and dwelt among us.
[Me]: And yet Klemp, as the LEM/Mahanta, also claims to be the WORD!
Except, unlike PT (LOL!), he didn't have a Virgin Birth! I assume
that he is hinting this Twitchell "fact" to all listening.
[L]: In the following story, Sri Harold was careful to mention that
many of the personal details have been altered in this story in
order to protect the privacy of the persons involved.
[Me]: Still, he shares things that are subjective private inner
experiences. HK will do or say anything to sell and promote the org.
[L]: The story comes once again from Kara, who went to a business
convention in another city and met a black man with eyes that she
described as "luminous." We¹ll call him Dave. Kara stopped to
talk to Dave, who told her that he worked hard for his family, which
included a wife and daughters and his mother-in-law. He worked all
day at one job and then at 1 am when his day job was finished, he
went to a second job.
[Me]: Cara seems to be full of it... stories. She must have quite
the active imagination... like Twitch!
[L]: Kara decided to share HU with this man, bringing out a HU card
that she said he could share with "his girls." Dave surprised Kara
by taking out of his walled a very battered HU Card that someone else
had given him 2 years previously! He explained to Kara that he was
also a lover of God.
[Me]: Linda leaves out that this was a "Black Man." However, HK
makes a big deal of it by saying there is nothing racial in
mentioning that he was Black. Basically, Klemp is including a Black
Man in a story for the benefit of the Nigerian Eckists.
[L]: Put at ease that he was speaking to someone who would
understand, Dave told Kara his story. He had been in prison for 25
years for a major crime. When he got out, he realized that he had a
choice to make. He could go straight or go back to a life of crime.
He decided to go straight. At one point while walking along the
street, he saw a White boy who was being held at gunpoint by three
Black men. Dave began to talk to the men, telling them that he had
spent time in prison, and that whatever they hoped to accomplish
with this kid was not worth being put in prison for years. He begged
them to let the kid go. Two of the Black men decided to leave, but
the third man continued to point his gun at the boy. Dave saw that
he was about to squeeze the trigger, and rapidly hit the man¹s arm
so that it went up and the gun fired harmlessly into the air. Then
he did what he had to do to make sure the boy would be safe.
[Me]: I, at first, thought Klemp was trying to make this guy into an
Eck Master. Apparently the guy had changed his ways and evolved into
a productive citizen, BUT with a certain understanding and
fearlessness due to the Karmic lessons he learned will in prison.
[L]: As the ECK would have it, the boy¹s father had been looking all
over for him, and he came upon this scene just as the gun went off,
just in time to see that Dave had saved his son¹s life. The man was
a very rich, important person, and insisted on giving Dave a reward
of $3,000. In addition, this influential man saw to it that Dave¹s
record was expunged, so that his criminal past would not make it
hard for him to get a job.
[Me]: Impossible! No one gets a felony expunged and if a person was
in prison for 25 years it had to be serious and a felony! By saying
this I now have to question the validity of the entire story and
Klemp's honesty in telling it.
[L]: Sri Harold remarked that Dave had given of himself. He had been
willing to risk his life to save the life of another. ECK Master
Rebazar Tarsz talks about this sort of selfless service in Paul
Twitchell¹s book Stranger By the River. Once again, this is an
instance of the Breath of God as it was felt in the lives of the
people in the story.
[Me]: It just goes to show that there are others out there (here)
that have as much, and more, to give to life than Eckists!
[L]: The next story is from an ECKist named Bonnie, about a woman
named Kay, who was pregnant and unmarried at the age of 17 and a
half. This story occurred 25 years ago.
[Me]: Ah yes, this is the second 17 1/2 year old female! So is Kay
now 42 1/2?
(Sri Harold seemed to stress this, but didn¹t explain why. However,
when you realize that this coming October will mark Sri Harold¹s
25th year as Living ECK Master, his stressing that the story occurred
25 years ago seems to make more sense. If anyone has a different
interpretation, I¹d love to hear it.)
[Me]: Yes, Klemp is experiencing OCD with the 25 year thing. Eckists
need to get ready for some changes in the hierarchy (pecking order).
[L]: Kay was living with her parents at the time, and she had only
$700 to her name. She decided to apply for welfare, but had a hard
time convincing the welfare workers that she was really pregnant. At
one point, she had to drive her doctor over to the welfare office
to have him tell them personally that she was pregnant in order to
get herself enrolled for welfare. Sri Harold remarked that Kay was a
fighter, that she would keep telling herself that whatever happened
would not beat her down. When Kay was 8 and a half months pregnant,
she was out driving and had a flat tire. When she went to get out
her spare tire, she Found that the spare, too, had a flat! Kay was
so angry that she kicked the tire. Suddenly, a man in a white
Porsche pulled over and asked her if she needed help. She said yes,
and sheepishly asked if the man had seen her kick the tire. The man
told her that he had, and that he had thought it was funny. Kay
looked at the license plate of the Porsche, and saw that the license
plate holder had inscribed on it the name of a local car
Kay assumed he must be the owner of this dealership, or perhaps one
of the employees there. She felt safe with this fellow, and decided
to allow him to take her to a phone booth, where she could call her
parents. (Sri Harold remarked that this was before cell phones. LOL)
The man even gave Kay money to make the phone call. Before the man
drove away, Kay asked for his business card. The card had a name
and phone number, and the name of the same car dealership that was
inscribed on the license plate holder. Kay intended to give the man
a call later to thank him and to pay him back eventually for the
phone call. When Kay¹s parents came to get her, she decided not to
tell them about the man who had helped her.
[Me]: Well, just off hand Kay seems to have made a lot of
assumptions at 8 1/2 months pregnant and at 17 1/2 years old. She
was driving a crummy car with bad tires and no spare. She also
assumed that a possible car salesman would still work at the
dealership listed on his card or that the secretary who answered the
phone would have known him. Duh? Was this story written just
recently from a memory of that took place 25 years ago? Talk about
embellishments! Maybe Kay also has some past life memories that she
could share as well. Could she have been Cleopatra the Virgin Mary!
Klemp claims to have been the childhood friend of Jesus! Maybe she
had him over for dinner on occasion. LOL!
[L]: The next day, Kay called the car dealership, only to be told
that nobody with that name had ever worked there. Kay decided to
look for the card again to check the name, but it was nowhere to
be found. Sri Harold had mentioned a couple of times that Kay was
the kind of person who never loses things, and so it was very
strange for her to have lost the man¹s business card.
[Me]: WOW! Was this an ECK MASTER! Or, was this a "fill-in" or
temporary secretary that told her (as far as she knew) that the guy
never worked there?! And, the card just magically disappeared from
her parents house as Kay was about to give birth! Yes, this 17 1/2
year old who was 8 1/2 month pregnant and living at home trying to
get on Welfare and driving around in a broken down car had NEVER
LOST ANYTHING BEFORE THIS. Therefore, this has to be a credible
[L]: Kay decided to tell no one about the person who rescued her
until she met Bonnie, her ECKist friend. Bonnie showed her some
pictures of the ECK Masters, and Kay excitedly pointed to the
picture of Rami Nuri, the ECK Master who is now in charge of the
golden wisdom temple located in the supraphysical (between the
Physical Plane and the Astral Plane in the city of Retz, on the
planet Venus. Bonnie asked her if it was a case pf a ³similar²
person, or an uncanny resemblence, and Kay told her it was
uncanny. Bonnie¹s comment: I expect to hear stories like this
from people in other places, but not here in California!
[Me]: Actually, California is exactly where one is more than likely
to hear stories like this! This is one reason why Eckankar moved to
MN. So, why isn't Rami taking care of the Shariyat on Venus? Are
there fewer people coming? Hey what's the gravity like on the
physical body there compared to earth? Maybe Bonnie knows?
[L]: Sri Harold concluded by mentioning some items in the Bookroom:
ECK Masters and You, a "shortie" as he put it, with only 70 pages.
It is a large, soft-cover book with glossy colored pages. There are
a number of stories in it about each of the ECK Masters who works
with the public.
[Me]: Yes, these are good books to use in creating false memories.
Klemp wants Eckists to use their imaginations and these pictures
[L]: Spiritual Wisdom on Health and Healing. This is in the same
series as the book Spiritual Wisdom on Conquering Fear. It is small
and written without a lot of ECK terms, so is suitable for the
[Me]: Tricking the public is the name of the game that brings in the
big bucks and helps the peons gather those sought after initiations.
Too bad that Klemp can't use this book's info to heal himself!
[L]: ECK Parable and Activity Kit for ECK youth. This packet
contains loose pages which can be combined in any way to make
suitable materials for any child from ages 3 to 13, and is suitable
for parents who wish to teach their children the ECK principles at
[Me}: More brainwashing at an early age. Maybe Eck parents should
learn that sometimes professional help is needed instead of HUing to
the Mahanta! Wake Up People!
[L]: Sri Harold concluded his talk by saying, "Life is Good. May the
[Me]: Of course it is for him! He's delusional! Actually, any Eckist
could take Klemp's place. As long as they didn't act like Gross
there wouldn't be a problem for Eckankar's Board or Eckists in
general. Sad.... but true! <smile>