highlights and bits of info from the ECK Springtime Seminar:
stood up at a workshop and said the following (paraphrased):
information that we get on the Inner is like files on a server that
all connected to. We have access to these files when we
It occurred to me after hearing the above that
all we really need is
the password to access these Files. The
password is HU.
+++ Anyone knows you need to change your password often! The
fact that eckankar used to call the Hu a secret word that was lost by many, then
changed Hu to an ancient word that should be shared by many, now
a password to access the inner.... isn't accessing
*files* on the inner based on which initiation level each are on? So not
everyone will have access even if they use the password HU. Couldn't
Klemp use this in his *Astral Library* access to information
explanation? It's not called plagiarism if we accessed it from the
files on the inner, using that password HU.
Three questions to answer for yourself or to bring to your
(ECK study group). (Not for discussion here, please.)
What is Satsang?
2. What makes a good Satsang?
3. What makes a GREAT
+++ 1) Dumb 2) Dumber 3) Dumbest... not for discussion here
please! LOL The secret is there is no secret to
Satsang is a gathering of like minded individuals. A good Satsang
would consist of no Ego, or one up manship, no fabrications. And the really
great Satsang would be one where nobody shows up but you. You can place
chairs all along the circle and pretend you are chatting with invisible
souls and Masters that did show up!
How has your life changed since you realized that you exist
God loves you?
+++ Pull back the curtain, and realize your connection and love from
God, does not rely on a Guru or Mythical Master. Then and
only then, will soul realize how profoundly their life will change.
Love does not cost a yearly membership fee, or spending thousands of dollars on
trips to a fancy Temple or to Seminars. You won't have to
purchase all those Vahana products, and books to spread the word and make some
skinny cheesy God Man rich. How about that 64 thousand dollar
question: Most won't even get out of bed for that these days! So, is
Klemp saying he does? Don't bet on it! He makes way more than that
each year, since he is the sole owner of eckankrap. Well, maybe somewhere
he has a prenup that gives Joan some authority, the new FLEM?
A clip from one of Sri Harold¹s older talks was played at one
He had apparently not given the Vairagi Blessing (May the Blessings
at the end of a recent talk, and people had been upset about this.
Harold responded that we can receive this blessing from God at any
simply by going within. He cautioned us not to reduce this
blessing to a
custom or ritual.
+++ Ooooppppsss ;-) Peter has his hand up Klemp's
Puppet Arsss, and just forgot to have him wave the blessing of the
Vairagi. Hell even eck Master's have a senior
moment? Right??? LOL
Sri Harold appeared to be healthy and happy on Saturday
He seemed to be wearing a new suit and tie.
+++ I don't know about anyone else, but I thought Harold sounded like
he had cotton in his mouth, or was it just cotton mouth? He sounded
distracted, and not able to keep focused in parts of his talk. The recap
was pretty lame too.... could he possibly have forgotten which eck master
he was trying to speak about and got them confused? LOL
Sri Harold thanked all those who made the effort to come to the
and he thanked the ECK Youth for a very large card that they sent to
(It was too large to bring out on stage, apparently.) He also
Bernie, the man whose Unitarian friends call Sri Harold ³Big
noted that at the previous Worldwide Seminar Bernie had come
as a guest.
This time Bernie is an ECKist. (The audience applauded
+++ Well did Bernie stand up to be recognized? Even if someone
did stand up how the heck would you know if he really was Bernie? Just
another *plant* tactic that lots of ministries use as a tool of
recognition to make others feel welcome and
Three questions were gathered from the ECK Youth for Sri
Harold to answer.
The first question has three parts.
What was your [Sri Harold¹s] initial impression of singing HU
when you were
new to Eckankar?
Sri Harold said that he was ³blown away² and that he
felt like crying, but
did not let himself cry because it would be ³unmanly,²
which he gave us to
know was his state of consciousness at that time.
+++ Is it any more manly to run naked in an airport, or jumping off a
bridge? Harold cries even when he begins his talks at seminars! His
comments about not turning his head so much when talking because it will look
strange when played back on video.... that was his message to Peter (who has his
hand up HK's Arss, as the puppet master) to quit moving his head around
Question 1b: What is the best way to introduce HU to
Sri Harold suggested that we simply say, ³HU is a love song to
can help you.²
+++ I always had a huge aversion to calling Hu a love song to god when
sharing it with strangers, or even people I knew! Since when does God need
a love song?
Question 1c: Has your experience with HU
changed since you became the
Living ECK Master?
Sri Harold explained
that HU is both an ancient name of God and the
Sound of God. It is a
Sound that underlies all other sounds; it is the
upon which Life
lives, breathes and has Its being. He apologized for not
explaining that one would have to be in his position in
understand any further explanation.
+++ LOL he was at a loss for words actually. He stumbled
and tried to come up with a good reason for his laps in completing his train of
Question 2: For people who find it hard to sit
are there any active spiritual
Sri Harold didn¹t say this in so many words, but the short
answer to this
question appears to be No.
Next, we must quiet the mind, which ³jumps around like a monkey² as
says in the Shariyat Ki Sugmad. Rather than forcing the mind to be
Sri Harold just suggested that we simply ³watch the monkey² until it
tired, which it eventually will do.
+++ While I was listening to this, the thought crossed my mind,
"why not just spank the monkey?" ;-) Isn't that what
some parents do to their unruly children when they can't sit still and quiet
down, or listen?
Anyway, Julie was drawing some letters on this
toy and she
drew the following letters in order: H U . Naturally
this was Ginger¹s
cue to tell Grace about singing HU. Later, while
Julie was resting on
her mother¹s lap, Ginger sang HU to her softly.
The child smiled and
sang along with Ginger for a while, then rested
+++ Just another *plant* to enforce the year of sharing Hu story
line. Recycled, recycled, FLUSH!!!
After the workshop, Kara heard that Tracy and her mom had
checking out Eckankar and ECKists in general, and that they
+++ Another *planted* story to drive home the need to get the word
out for increased membership. Tactics still being used to make the chela's
feel they could be doing more to spread the message of eck to the world.
Seven years later, Lisa had another child, a second
she sang the little song to her second child, the child
saying, ³You used to sing that song to me!² This
was Lisa¹s proof
that reincarnation is real.
Lisa later recalled and
early childhood memory of her own in which
ECK Master Gopal Das came to her
when she was a little girl.
+++ More planting of the importance of getting the word out to
others, because after all it is all about membership = money! Tell those
same ol stories, or a little spin on a recycled one and it makes for yet
again another boring seminar talk by HK.
Put at ease that he was speaking to someone
who would understand,
Dave told Kara his story. He had been in prison
for 25 years for a
major crime. When he got out, he realized that he
had a choice to
make. He could go straight or go back to a life of
crime. He decided
to go straight. <snipped>
Sri Harold remarked that Dave had given of himself. He had
willing to risk his life to save the life of another. ECK Master
Tarsz talks about this sort of selfless service in Paul Twitchell¹s
Stranger By the River. Once again, this is an instance of the
of God as it was felt in the lives of the people in the
+++ HK also spoke about how this guys criminal record had been
expunged, or in other words removed from record! What.... after
being in prison for 25 years, and HK stated it had to be for a major
crime, no ones record gets expunged! How stupid are we folks!
The only reason something like this could happen is if a computer or human made
an error. Not to mention it would be corrected rather quickly too, since most
who are released from prison still have parole officers they have to meet with
The next story is from an ECKist named Bonnie, about a woman
who was pregnant and unmarried at the age of 17 and a
half. This story
occurred 25 years ago.
Kay was living with her parents at the time, and she had only $700
her name. She decided to apply for welfare, but had a hard
convincing the welfare workers that she was really pregnant.
one point, she had to drive her doctor over to the welfare office
have him tell them personally that she was pregnant in order to
herself enrolled for welfare. Sri Harold remarked that Kay was
fighter, that she would keep telling herself that whatever
would not beat her down.
+++ This is such a load of crap! All it would take is a medical
letter from her doctor to show proof she was in fact pregnant. Guess she
was so rail thin she didn't look pregnant? I'm surprised anyone in the
audience would buy this load, but they will and did! For those that might
have been sitting there listening to this fabrication, that works in a welfare
dept. would see the lie clear as day! Unless of course this was a story in
which 25 years ago this is how they handled a case like this!
Unbelievable even if really did happen 25 years ago. Again, all it
would take is a medical record, or letter on the office letter
Sri Harold concluded by mentioning some items in the Bookroom:
Masters and You, a ³shortie² as he put it, with only 70 pages.
It is a large,
soft-cover book with glossy colored pages. There are
a number of
stories in it about each of the ECK Masters who works
Spiritual Wisdom on Health and Healing. This is in the
series as the book Spiritual Wisdom on Conquering Fear. It is
and written without a lot of ECK terms, so is suitable for the
ECK Parable and Activity Kit for ECK youth. This
loose pages which can be combined in any way to make
materials for any child from ages 3 to 13, and is suitable
parents who wish to teach their children the ECK principles at
Sri Harold concluded his talk by saying, ³Life is
Good. May the
+++ Hey maybe we should create a new eck book discussion group and
chat about these books online? LOL Life is good, when you are
a Mythical Eck Master making yacht loads full of money. For 64
thousand dollars an appearance, I would let Peter be my puppet master!