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ECKANKAR: (ASOST) Where's the SCIENCE?

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  • prometheus_973
    Hello All, In the spiritual exercise (below) for summoning Rebazar, WHY IS IT THAT ANOTHER ECK MASTER MAY SHOW UP? What has happened to the ANCIENT SCIENCE
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      Hello All,
      In the spiritual exercise (below) for summoning Rebazar, WHY IS IT
      THAT "ANOTHER" ECK MASTER MAY SHOW UP? What has happened to the
      ANCIENT SCIENCE OF SOUL TRAVEL (ASOST) under Klemp? If Rebazar was
      real then why wouldn't he show up and why wouldn't this MAHANTA
      TECHNIQUE work? What happened to the "SCIENCE" of SOUL TRAVEL?

      Yes, Klemp admits that Twitchell gathered scattered fragments of
      truth from other sources (The Path of the Masters), BUT that's also
      why one cannot trust anything about Eckankar. Twitchell took a hodge-
      podge of materials and then tied it all into fictional dogma and
      (imaginary) characters like the "Eck" Masters and the Mahanta.
      TWITCHELL NOT ONLY CREATED AN IMPERFECT "REFLECTION OF ABSOLUTE
      TRUTH" BUT ALSO A HIGHLY DISTORTED ONE!

      NOTE: The below quotes from the introduction of "Path" and shows how
      Twitchell used this book (among other sources) in order to create
      his, and now Klemp's, religious scam/vocation.


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      The following quotes come from "The Path of the Masters" by Julian
      P. Johnson [pgs. xxi, xxii, xxv, xxix, xxx, xxxv, xxxvi, (1939)]:

      "The knowledge of the Science of 'Self' is one of the greatest
      treasures a man can discover and possess... The following questions
      and topics are set forth and explained in this book in modern,
      simple and clear language....

      What is religion? What are its promises and its bestowals?
      Monotheism, Polytheism, Monism, Pantheism. The statement concerning
      the main religious movements of the East and of the West. The value
      of ceremonies, rites and sacred books. What is God? What are His
      names? The great spiritual hierarchies. The superior planes and high
      regions. The spiritual guides of the past and present time. The role
      of the Masters. True and false 'Gurus'; how to recognize them. The
      way to realize Union with the Supreme Being. The various stages to
      be passed through by those willing to tread the pathway of the
      Master. How to become a disciple? Asceticism. The esoteric
      constitution of the human being. The Chakras. Kundalini. The problem
      of desire. The five perversions or passions and their antidotes. The
      diverse Karmas. Re-incarnation and metempsychosis. Death and after
      death. The various Yogas. The importance of the Audible Life Stream;
      in short all that concerns the 'Science of the Masters'...

      TRUTH ALWAYS EXPRESSES ITSELF WITH THE GREATEST SIMPLICITY...

      SPIRITUALLY CANNOT BE TAUGHT BUT CAUGHT [My caps]...

      Sat means 'true or unchangeable' and Sang means 'union'... This
      trinity of the Santon-ki-Shiksha is technically called:

      SAT GURU--living Master
      SAT SANG--His company, and
      SAT NAM---The True Name (Shabd or Heavenly Bani)... All human hopes
      and efforts center about three things:

      (a) Self-realization;
      (b) God-realization;
      (c) Entering the Kingdom of Heaven, either in this life or the
      next...

      This is not a cult, nor is it even a religion, in the historic sense
      of that term... It is a scientific method of entering and realizing
      the Kingdom of Heaven while still living here in the human body.
      That is the sum and substance of this book."

      ********************************************************************

      So, does any of this sound familiar? This was Twitchell's main
      source of infomation because his Master Kirpal Singh (a.k.a. Rebazar
      Tarzs) was also the chela of Julian Johnson's two Masters. They were
      first, Huzur Maharaj BABA SAWAN SINGH JI (1858-1948) and then Sardar
      Bahadur JAGAT SINGH JI MAHARAJ (1884-1951). In 1951 SANT KIRPAL
      SINGH JI became the new master (1894-1974) and he initiated P.T. in
      1955 on a visit to the States. Strange how the 970th LEM out lived
      the 971st LEM (Twitchell) who died at 59 years of age!

      Then again, if it wasn't for Gail Twitchell Gross, Eckankar never
      would have lasted longer than Paul. She is the "Mother" and Paul is
      the "Father" of the scam... yet where is she now?! Is she still
      an "Eck Master" with a lifetime membership and a non-disclosure
      agreement in place? Is she receiving royalties, or was there a cash
      pay out? How can the "Mother" of Eckankar reject her child? What's
      wrong with this picture?! Well, it would be interesting to hear
      Klemp's spin on all of this wouldn't it? Did she fall from Harold's
      grace like Darwin? Maybe Eckists should call their RESAs, or the
      ESC, or write to Klemp and ask about Gail's status! Kata Daki (K.D.)
      is Paul's older sister Kay-Dee, so which female Eck Master is Gail,
      or is she her own Master?!

      Curious People Want To Know! LOL! Come on Harry... give it a shot...
      use your imagination! <smile>

      Prometheus


      mishmisha wrote:

      From "Those Wonderful ECK Masters," chapter 10, pages 197-198,
      Harold Klemp writes:

      "Paul Twitchell came to gather the SCATTERED FRAGMENTS OF TRUTH and
      put them in a single body of teachings... NOTHING SET DOWN IN ANY
      BOOK CAN EVER BE A PERFECT REFLECTION OF ABSOLUTE TRUTH, HOWEVER."

      [Me]: My caps above and below

      So, is Klemp saying that what he has written in this book, "Those
      Wonderful ECK Masters," is not "a perfect reflection of absolute
      truth?" I think so. Throughout this book, Klemp keeps writing about
      using the imagination to find the ECK Masters. All the spiritual
      exercises are centered around one's development and use of the
      creative imagination.

      From page 117, Klemp instructs the reader in "A SPIRITUAL EXERCISE
      TO MEET REBAZAR TARZS."

      "Relax in contemplation with eyes shut... sing Rebazar (REE-bah-
      zahr) softly... Rebazar OR ANOTHER ECK Master will come and impart
      the wisdom of God to you."
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