Re: HI Letter: "The Temporary Postal Clerk" - the "original"
- Hi Ingrid,
Klemp couldn't see the 'Principle of the Threes' either could he! HK
mentioned TWICE that there were THREE fill-ins or temporary clerks.
Joan had shared this account of her post office experience and yet
they both remained clueless about a number of things taking place in
this spiritual test--for them. For Eckists, this is a Revelation
concerning the "real" or "unreal" Mahanta! The LAW OF ECONOMY was
completely overlooked as was the comment by that third temporary
clerk about there being "No Normal People Here." How many hints (by
Spirit) does it take! By the way, I took the liberty to capitalize
the THREE in Nacal's post since he is me anyway! <smile>
Yes, this 09/2003 H.I. Letter article, in Klemp's own words, is a
classic example that points out the fraud of the Mahanta's
Consciousness and, therefore, the fraud of the initiations, the Eck
Masters, and most of everything else about Twitchell's Eckankar! The
Truth about this deception does hurt, at first, "BUT" It must Not be
denied any longer by Eckists! Everyone needs to be free of religious
limits, dogma, and guidelines in order to become their own Master!
this is the original postal clerk story as posted by "Nacal" on the
Truth-Seeker site on 6/8/2004
H.I. Letter "The Temporary Postal Clerk" September 2003
I thought I would refresh some memories with the Temporary Postal
This is to address comments made by Harold Klemp (spiritual leader
of Eckankar) toward a temporary postal clerk that Harold's wife Joan
had dealings with. Ask yourself: Why did Klemp find it necessary to
even mention this incident in the H.I. Letter; Why was he so
emotionally involved with this hearsay account; and Why was he so
unloving toward this Soul?
"Joan went to the post office to conduct some business. The THREE
regular postal clerks were on vacation, and THREE fill-ins were in
place. Joan asked one clerk, a SURLY man who'd served her some weeks
earlier as a fill-in, to please check if she had a package. He THREW
BACK a DARK LOOK. `I'll need to see some identification.' Joan
returned a puzzled look. Show an ID for a package that might not be
there?" [My caps]
Now why was Joan puzzled? How difficult is it to get your ID out?
Maybe Joan isn't use to an underling giving her orders (she is the
wife of the man with the highest consciousness on earth and she is
second in command at Eckankar regardless of what Peter may think)!
Also, the LAW OF ECONOMY and common sense would be applied here as
well. Why would the clerk take the time to look through dozens of
packages only to find out that the customer forgot their ID? Or,
what if the package was for someone else who had to present their
own ID if the package had a different address (the ESC) than on her
(Joan's) driver license?
"With all the SELF-IMPORTANCE of an UNCIVIL servant, he said, `There
are no normal people here today!' That explained everything. It'd
been a hard day all around. The difference between them is that the
clerk holds on to things he feels are out of order, while Joan lets
the slights of other people go. She doesn't hang on to a bad
encounter with a person who behaves in a BOORISH manner. She
SURRENDERS to the ECK." [My caps except on eck]
I would disagree with Harold and say that the difference between
Joan and the temporary postal clerk is that Joan is an 8th initiate
in Eckankar, and that she was WRONG not to think that she should
show her ID before the clerk went to look for the package. Also, I
don't believe that Joan does Not hold on to things, or that she lets
the slights of other people go! Besides, why does she even see this
as a slight? Is she reading her own aura, and is this a reflection
her own feelings and not the temporary clerk? Joan seems to have a
very strong ego that felt challenged by a lesser valued Soul. She
obviously mentioned the whole experience to Harold when she got home
instead of letting it go! And, Harold obviously felt insulted and
wronged for his wife (according to her account), and became
emotionally involved in order to make these negative and unloving
comments about this Soul.
"The Golden-tongued Wisdom had spoken in the clerk's own words:
There are no normal people here today.' He'd then said that he
couldn't issue a postal money ordera basic post-office service.
Joan, of course, persisted. Another clerk was happy to sell her a
I find that this is an abuse of the term Golden-tongued Wisdom since
Harold is using it as a way to slight this temporary postal clerk.
Besides, are Truth/God Seekers "normal people?" I don't think so!
Also, could it be that this temporary clerk was not trained to do
money orders, or that only one person had this duty? Why am I able
to see this and Harold and Joan can't?
"Let the ECK, or the Mahanta, help carry your frustrations. It's the
key to happiness. But how to accomplish that? The discipline of
remembering to surrender is part of one's spiritual discipline. Yes,
this sounds like no answer at all, but it's the individual's
responsibility to remember. That's what consciousness is for."
Should we always look outside of ourselves? How is surrendering to
dependence on a Mahanta, or even Spirit (the ECK), teaching
spiritual discipline? It certainly isn't teaching self
responsibility! Perhaps we should look at it from another
perspective and understand that the test is not to remember to hand
the problem off to someone else. I think that we need to look within
ourselves and determine why we are frustrated, and maybe to have
some empathy for the other person. In almost all of Harold's
writings I can see that Harold is not very empathetic (understanding
and loving) to other people.
"Let's add, too, that the postal clerk's IDEA of SERVICE to people
goes BEGGING. It's not an example for an ECKist. Service in ECK
means being an agent for the Mahanta. It requires respect for
others." [My caps]
Harold's not being very nice to this TEMPORARY postal clerk is he?
Actually, he was probably acting on a higher level of consciousness
than Joan (an 8th initiate in Eckankar) and Harold (a 14th
initiate). After all, he was following the Law of Economy by asking
for Joan's ID before he went looking for the packages. What if she
had forgotten it after he looked for five minutes? Haven't other
customers forgotten their IDs? Isn't it just common sense to ask
first? Where is Harold's common sense, or have his emotions blinded
him? What happened to Harold's "respect" for this temporary clerk?
Isn't it interesting that Harold is also throwing out the
old "service" carrot also. Too bad that Harold's idea of service
cannot help him to be an agent for the Mahanta either. Or, maybe he
is a true agent of Kal as a false "Master."
"The Holy ECK feeds all with the bread and waters of life. So how
could a spiritually alert person do less than SERVE It with love and
humility? This attitude should be like a shining light to the world.
True love and humility show in all one's dealings. Build and support
people. An old saying has it: `Whose bread I eat, his song I
I wonder who Harold is talking about because it can't be him or
Joan! How can Harold be spiritually alert to have made these
comments in this publication? Why do they not see my point about the
clerk checking to see if people have their IDs with them before
looking for their packages? And, after 9/11 security is tighter
Also, why can't Harold and Joan see that maybe only one "temporary
clerk" might be in charge of doing money orders. Even assuming that
this one person was lazy, or not very customer friendly about the
money order couldn't there be mitigating circumstances for this?
Or, maybe he wasn't even trained on how to do money orders . he's
a "TEMPORARY" postal clerk! Where is the empathy and insight? Where
is Harold's love and humility? Notice that Harold throws in the
word "serve" as he tries to give the impression that he and the
reader are spiritually alert when you serve IT and that "true love
and humility shows in all one's dealings." Not really, but putting
his spin on things is nothing new to Harold.
"Wouldn't a loving and humble ECKist recognize the ECK and the
Mahanta as the source of his very subsistence? Then how could he
ever serve the Kal, the negative force?
I didn't meet too many loving and humble ECKists in my many years
and travels (including Harold!). They're almost as rare as hens
teeth! Now I did meet a lot of unloving, arrogant, delusional,
unspiritual, clueless, rationalizing and manipulative Eckists! So,
maybe This is why many don't have a True relationship with Spirit
(the Eck). To me, Harold doesn't seem to have a true relationship
with Spirit either. Just look at his words and behavior! And once
again, Harold is pushing reliance on the Mahanta as the "source of
his (your) very subsistence."
It's interesting that Harold asks the question about how one could
ever serve the Kal if you serve the ECK (Spirit) or the Mahanta (Vi-
Guru)? Is this supposed to be our proof that Harold is serving
Spirit instead of Kal? Doesn't service to IT take place and change
in each moment as we make choices, or do we just start the day with
a contemplation and affirmation that takes care of things all day
long? If we are to be "spiritually alert" then we should be alert to
what is taking place with other people and with our own actions and
reactions to them and the situations we are placed in for our
spiritual growth. Unfortunately, both Harold and Joan did not view
this experience with the temporary postal clerk as an opportunity
for spiritual growth. I would say that they have erroneously placed
themselves above the field of karma and of spiritual growth. They
may have fooled the Eckists and deluded themselves, but they haven't
fooled me. Well, not lately anyway!