Re: A couple of additional points on The Four Zoas
- Hi Kaye and Liz,
I've enjoyed reading your additional two cents! Thanks, Liz, for
adding the links. Yes, Klemp knew about the Blake-Four Zoas
connection. Remember, HK mentioning Blake's obscure "Halls of Los"
Around 1990 Klemp had devised a method to keep Eckists away from
their computers and the Internet via EMR (health) complaints. This
fear tactic continues to work even today! Many Eckists are very
suggestible and will emulate their Mahanta on every level including
Klemp and Company are very clever at keeping the Lie alive, however,
Klemp is very unoriginal. This is why Klemp takes a three-pronged
approach to distort truth and keep Twitchell's Eckankar scam alive:
1.) He'll give comments on the material already written (plagiarized
and embellished) by Twitch since he could never "write" a new
Shariyat; 2.) HK will comment on some past Eck Master to act "as if"
he has present knowledge of them. This gives validity to the
delusion that Rebazar was Twitch's master and "steps-in" when
needed (Catch-22); 3.) HK will use initiate reports and the
misunderstood or delusional or embellished stories mailed in (or
told to staff members at seminars) to "prove" that the Eck Masters
are real, and that there is a real spiritual connection, therefore,
proving that the Eckankar dogma is truthful too.
Anyway, it looks like we're having fun pointing out all lies and
distortions that we were unable to comment on while members of the
ekult. Funny, how the Son of Sugmad gets as mad as Hell at times!
Why is that? <smile>
Good Morning everyone!
I enjoyed your responses and they prompted me to add two more of my
1) Ekult's four zoas don't and never did exist. The Four Zoas is the
title of a poem from an 18th century poet. Twitch stole the title and
used it for an overwhelming list of dos and donts designed to create
an almost constant state of guilt for being human. Effective control
technique? Of course it was never meant to apply to him and those in
2) When twitch started this whole "new/ancient path" he was pretty
confident that the average person would not know or have the ability
to discover the obscure sources that he used. Therefore, he was able
to boldly present this "new spiritual path" and attract followers.
When gross got lucky and took over the show, there was still little
chance of the average person having access to the truth. Gross was
able to increase the number and revenue by using the bogus initiation
system to stroke the vanity of the membership and keep them
Klemp saw the scandal and the increasing possiblity for exposure. He
surely was aware of the LIES. He got rid of gross, in a most
unloving, unkind, etc., etc. way I must add. He decided to stick
with the lies and took agressive legal action against anyone who
wrote books publicly challenging and exposing twitch's lies and
plagiarism. If your religion is all that you claim it to be them it
should stand up to some scrutiny shouldn't it? HK also saw a new
cause for concern-the internet! Information, obscure or not, was now
available to anyone with a PC and hook-up.
The initiation game will only go so far. In life, IF anything
desirable, such as wealth or status (or higher initiation)is gained
too easily or without merit, the object of desire only enhances what
you already are. If an initiate is a jerk and not particularly
spiritual as a fourth initiate (BUT pays their membership fees) then
they will just be a bigger jerk and no more spiritual as a fifth,
sixth and on up. There is nothing magic or spiritual about the
initiations, I've read that a computer keeps track of when they are
given. So much for the lem/godman being all knowing.
As Forrest Gump would say, "That's all I have to say about that!"
Have a good week-end!