923ZOHAR AND SEPHER more Eck fiction by P.T. & the Astral Tisra Til
- Dec 3, 2005Hi Leigh,
Eckankar's take on the Tisra Til and the whole chakra thing is
Astral too! I was looking at another part of "The Path of the
Masters" and saw where (pgs. 443-446) the Tisra Til is "the seat of
mind and soul." The (Radhasoami) Masters "begin their concentration
at Tisra Til, and from there they go on up. If one begins there, the
next station above Tisra Til is Ashta-dal-Kanwal, the lotus of eight
pedals, and the next above that is the true center of all the Astral
worlds. Its name is Sahasra-dal-Kanwal, and this is the first of the
great regions traversed by the Masters on their upward journey."
The spiritual exercise technique used most often in Eckankar, and
which is listed in "The Master 4 Discourses," is to use the Tisra
Til [a.k.a. The Third Eye; Spiritual Eye; Mind's Eye; Seat of Soul;
Shivanetra, the eye of Shiva; Nukta-i-saveda; the Tenth Door].
However, do Eckists realize that using the TISRA TIL is an ASTRAL
PLANE technique? I never realized it before!
"Sahasra-dal-Kanwal. sah-HAHS-rah-dahl-KAHN-wahl The CROWN CHAKRA,
the thousand-pedaled lotus; the capital city of the ASTRAL PLANE,
and the Mountain of Light at the top of the Astral; the powerhouse
of lights. Also Astral City, City of Lights." [Eckankar Lexicon,
Amazing! All of those years we were told that the focus on the Tisra
Til would get us to the Soul Plane and beyond! However, even
focusing on the Crown Chakra (higher than the Tisra Til) only gets
Soul to the top of the ASTRAL PLANE! All of those colored lights
(including blue) that many Eckists see... are probably from
the "Astral City, City of Lights!"
I (like most chelas) just accepted and trusted that what "they" were
saying was true! I never really bothered to check! Why would someone
lie about "Spiritual" matters, especially, when knowing about Karma!
Fool me once, shame on me; fool me twice, shame on you... Mr. Klemp!
That's a good piece of detective work. The Sepher/Zohar People,
Sephiroth/Zohar (Spendor) one. But we're also looking at a couple of
individual trees and missing the forest, here. Sepher, Sephiroth,
are cognates from the same root - sep, or sept - where our
word "seven" comes from also. Thr larger issue is that this is all
astral plane b.s. from the classical formula. That is, the astral
plane has seven levels, planes, or divisions in it. This goes WAY
back (originally) to sun worship (sunlight, when it's broken down in
the atmosphere by water (rain in the distance) or through the
convention of a prism, breaks down into the seven wavelengths that
compose it. Red, orange, yellow, green, indigo, blue, violet). The
cabala is pure astral plane b.s. used in the conventional way to try
to make of something of "God" or explain flux. This gets even more
involved when you go beyond the conventional delusion of "jivatma"
to "atma", "paramatma", and "adiatma". The "golden wisdom" Eckankar
uses and is keyed into is pure imagination. The "gold" color always
The thing is, it's all nonsense. All of this kind of stuff but has
been used over time by mankind to give itself a collective purpose,
develop cultures, and so on.
I have to agree that this could be a factor at times. On these Zohar
and Sepher examples, however, I'm thinking that Twitch was in a rush
to create new material for his scam and used the same source
material for both. This is why we can see a relationship to the two
On the other hand, Twitch could have been playing with us and did
this as a game of sorts. Twitch was somewhat clever and egotistical,
and this might have been his way of having the last laugh on those
followers and critics who were more educated (Ph.Ds).
Also, Twitch might have assumed that no one else would have done the
research that he had done and would never find his source material
or see the correlation.
Another factor is, Why would anyone Not beleive him? Why would
Twitch lie about Rebazar Tarzs or the rest of it? Hmmmmmm. So, it
seems Twitch did consciously use obscure parts of anything and
everything and redefined it to suit his purpose at the time.
And, it does seem like Twitch was a compulsive liar as well! After
awhile his mind became so deluded that he probably couldn't even
decipher any real truth for himself. It seems like the double dupe
was doubled with delusion! It's no wonder that Eckists find most of
this confusing and complex and decide to just surrender their minds
and wills to the Klempster.
"l2eigh" lgrif wrote:
In your post to Mish you indicate how the mind produces views for us
out of stuff we've crammed into it. Don't you think J.P.T. was
falling for this as well? This Zohar/Sephiroth, Zohar/Sepher thing
seems to be a perfect example. So often in the past six years I've
seen people expressing the view that a lot of the junk was
consciously engineered. I think this gives the people we're talking
about WAY too much credit for being clever. I think far more often
(particularly when you look at the volume of stuff) it's a case of
someone spitting out something their mind had thrown up at them to
experience. This makes them a double dupe, really. First they cram
their mind full of stuff, then it kicks it back to them as best it
can, and THEN they believe it, as is, without any critical review !
The Eckankar Lexicon has proof of Twitchell's scam. . . if only
Eckists would really read it and do the research! In "The Path of
the Masters" (Twitchell's primary resource book) on pages 161-168
is a very interesting discussion of the Kabbalah. "The En Soph,
therefore, was compelled to create the world in an indirect manner
by ten emanations from the infinite light which he was, and in which
he dwelt. These ten emanations are the ten Sephiroth, or Splendors
of the Infinite One... each of these Sephiroth was represented by a
Divine name and by an Angelic name... During the middle ages exiled
Jewry kept itself alive by various mystical interpretations of its
mission and destiny as expressed in a vast Kabbalistic literature,
which ultimately found its most unified, most perfect expression in
the Zohar, called the 'Book of Splendor.' This book did something
which even the Bible and Talmud had ignored. It discovered for the
materialistic Jew a new and hitherto unknown Kingdom: the Kingdom
of the soul."
Notice the words "Zohar" and "Sephiroth." Now let's look at the
"Zohar, the. ZOH-hahr A future ROOT RACE who will come from a far
distant planet to colonize the world after the destruction in the
twenty-first and twenty-second centuries, but they will fail and
after several centuries will withdraw. See also Sepher."[pg. 243]
"Sepher. SEHP-hehr The ECK Master who will be responsible for the
spiritual welfare of the Zohar, the ROOT RACE who will colonize ..."
So, I think that we can all see how Twitch created another "Eck
Master" Seph(er) and a new root race (Zohar) to go with him.
[Zohar/Sephiroth vs. Zohar/Sepher] Is it no wonder that the
existance of Rebazar Tarzs is in question as well!
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