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6683Re: [EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous] Re: Fw: Ho Hum, Another Cult and Clone of Eckankar

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  • etznab18
    Apr 9 7:51 AM
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      About this subject, there were rods back in Biblical days. And before
      that, in Egypt. I remember the story of Moses and Pharaoh casting their
      rods on the ground and one consuming the other (something like that).
      So, evidently, people believed in the power of rods. They are in movies
      like Lord of the Rings and other stories.

      Back in Biblical times (and before) I suspect a rod (in the form of a
      shepherd's crook) had some practical applications (like rescuing
      livestock from a river). And in highland and mountain areas maybe it
      was used as a walking stick.

      By the time of the Egyptian Pharaoh's a number of different staffs had
      developed. One of them was called the "was" scepter

      "Was sceptres were used as symbols of power or dominion, and were
      associated with the gods (such as Set or Anubis)[1] as well as with the
      pharaoh. Was sceptres also represent the Typhonic beast or Set-animal
      (the mascot of the Egyptian god Set). In later use, it was a symbol of
      control over the force of chaos that Set represented."

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Was

      The spiritual name for the current leader of Eckankar is (curiously, I
      believe) Wah Z. I'm not sure how that name came about, but remember
      some story about Darwin pronouncing the word wahhh and asking Harold if
      he knew the rest of it. Does anybody recall a story like that? Where
      Darwin helped to give Harold his spiritual name?

      At any rate, it seems that the "Rod of Power" paradigm (even outside of
      Eckankar myth) has been around for ages. I imagine it's possible that
      the founder of Eckankar probably read about it too. However, Rebazar
      Tarzs is said to be the "torchbearer" for Eckankar, but much of his
      words seem to read like pages from out of books. Books known by Paul
      Twitchell, the founder!

      Maybe someday I can look at earlier Eckankar texts that mention "Rod of
      Power" & see whether any of that story was paraphrased, or plagiarized
      from another source.



      -----Original Message-----
      From: harrisonferrel <harrisonferrel@...>
      To: EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous
      <EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Tue, Apr 9, 2013 2:48 am
      Subject: [EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous] Re: Fw: Ho Hum, Another Cult and
      Clone of Eckankar

       
      Ah, yes, more nonsense. This is a case of jumping out of the fire and
      into the frying pan. Let's be blunt. There is no rod of power. There is
      no rod of anything. It's all just bullshit. If you need the delusion
      then have a great time with it. But it's such a ridiculous, unprovable
      and absurd idea that I don't know where to begin.

      The mind is a creative tool. It's capable of invention as well as
      belief in invention. This is how god was created. Or, to be more
      accurate, gods in the plural. The idea of a rod is merely another way
      of saying spirit. But it's built on very flimsy circumstantial evidence.

      --- In EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com, Gnothe Seauton
      <prometheus_973@...> wrote:
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      >
      > ----- Forwarded Message -----
      > From: mariola_kbf <mariola_kbf@...>
      > To: prometheus_973 <prometheus_973@...>
      > Sent: Friday, April 5, 2013 6:47 AM
      > Subject: Re: Ho Hum, Another Cult and Clone of Eckankar
      >
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      > I am not an advocate for either of these Spiritual Paths...the rod
      of power has passed from one movement to another time and time again.
      It appears Spirit has it's own selection committee outside of our
      organisations and their claims to fame. Yes twichell was a Living LOGOS
      Master upon the lineage, so was Baba Sawan Singh Ji who belongs to Sant
      Mat Spiritual Movement. My point is, that it was the individual and not
      the movement. This has since changed - no longer will the rod of power
      pass from movement to movement. It will remain now and until
      dissolution of the Physical Universe - within the Spiritual Movement of
      LOGOS-IBbala Malende. I expect this will not sit well with Spiritual
      Movements the world over, however their feelings are of little
      consequence. The Lord Eagle is one of 5 in the Father Lineage above the
      Son Lineage we speak of. It was The Nameless One, Helios, Aton,
      Maitreya and recently the Lord Eagle - also called LOGOSOGO. The
      movement
      > here/physically has little form and infrastructure...there is
      however a website www.logos-im.org.za The crux lies in the Rod of Power
      - again of the "Living Master" Currently Suntre Boewel. There is so
      much truth in these Spiritual Movements granted, but there is only one
      rod of power, which only recently has come to rest. This movement
      "LOGOS" is founded via the "Father". In the past there was the Father
      Sun, then the Father Christ....now the Father LOGOS. So in this case
      the Father LOGOS has founded the movement hence the longevity and
      certainty that the Rod of Power is fixed within the movement henceforth.
      >
      >
      > --- In EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com,
      "prometheus_973" <prometheus_973@> wrote:
      > >
      > > Hello All,
      > > This was taken from their
      > > site. Notice the similarities
      > > to Eckankar. And, they even
      > > mention Eckankar!
      > >
      > > Their Mahaji is a 14th initiate!
      > > And this guy is the 973rd
      > > Living ___ Master. I guess
      > > nobody told him that the
      > > previous 972 either didn't
      > > exist, or were stolen from
      > > other religions. Actually, he
      > > probably knows these previous
      > > "masters" don't exist and
      > > that Twitchell was a wannabe
      > > fraud like this guy and Klemp
      > > are emulating in order to
      > > sell their wares!
      > >
      > > *********
      > > About Sri Kahtifji The Mahaji the Living SRAOSHA Master.
      > >
      > > The Living SRAOSHA Master is the titular leader of AKATHA. He
      (always a man as of physical vibratory rate â€" a scientific factor and
      not a social idea of male or female) is at least a Twelfth Plane
      Initiate (the title Mahaji has two meanings â€" synonymous with the
      Living SRAOSHA Master who is a 14th Initiate or higher and a fourteenth
      initiate as well). He receives in Soul Body (Spirit Body), what is
      known as the Yastiprabhava (Rod of Power â€" centralised vibratory
      spiritual power from God sometimes known as the "quickening,
      polarisation, godhood, etc."  He is not God ITSELF but like any Soul
      just a spark of  God. Still the Living SRAOSHA Master is the central
      or highest developed spark of Soul as the leader of AKATHA.) in the
      Valley of Shangta at the Oracle of Tirmir in India. Only one can exist
      at a time.
      > >
      > >  I, Sri Kahtifji (Sri Timothy Arnold [sobriquet of Sri
      Tirkahtif ra-Zah]), presently represents the 973rd Living SRAOSHA
      Master with the lineage starting with Rama at midnight on October 22,
      3100 B.C. (Before the Common era). On that date marked the beginning of
      the Iron Age or the Kali Yuga. Since a new era started then, it was
      easy to mark the beginning of the lineage (older masters are called
      "Ancient Masters") albeit no end exists to the lineage as it goes on
      forever as long as the lower worlds (see God Worlds chart) exist. Still
      beginning points are earmarked in history as of convenience in time and
      space. We can still write a list of masters in a lineage book that will
      not be too long. The title is given to the lineage of AKATHA Leaders
      down through history.
      > >
      > > The AKATHA lineage is the longest unbroken line of spiritual
      masters in the universe that teaches the principles of the ancient
      science of Sahaji. The name has been different at times, e.g., Eckankar
      from 1965 to 1971, Kabav from 1500 to 1518, and Melvev in the 13th
      Century. AKATHA has been public this time since 1988. The tenure of the
      Master varies like the path itself wherein the length of mastery tenure
      has been from 226 years to two days. Hence, one can see quite a range
      here. The important point remains that the Living Master is a temporary
      position and not one man forever, taking away the idea of dictatorship.
      Also, it explains the messiah or savant complexes are, in reality, just
      hero worship or a god complex for a time and a dictatorship absolutely.
      Presently, we have the same occurrence taking place in the new age
      movements with self-styled savants making a claim for god-ship
      expecting the public to proclaim them. The temporary tenure of the
      > Living SRAOSHA Master shows no permanent leadership by one man
      giving a relief to the student. The Master emphasizes this point often
      making sure the students understand thoroughly especially when the
      tenure is long. I have been master as of this writing for 23 years and
      as it gets longer emphasize the fact of the lineage quite often
      reinforcing the fact of non-dictatorship by one person.
      > >
      > > The purpose, prime directive or mission directly from AKSHAR
      of the Living SRAOSHA Master is nothing more than to take the ready
      Soul back to God or at least the Fifth plane of Sat Lok (shown on the
      God Worlds of AKATHA chart on this website). The purpose has always
      been and always will be in finding the ready Soul as the true
      Bodhisattva (One who sees and experiences God-Realization and returns
      to guide others back to IT). The Rod of Power explained in the previous
      paragraph gives the Master the ability to guide the ready Soul into the
      Higher Planes. The Master's experience of itself affords the ready one
      an expert guidance for travelling in Sahaji. Of course, the training of
      this inner and outer master has taken many lifetimes to achieve
      culminating in the Rod of Power reception. As of this long training and
      after the Rod of Power is transferred to this Master, the Living
      SRAOSHA Master, the chela or student can now avail himself of this
      special
      > experiential teaching expertise. Thus, AKATHA reveals that the
      experienced Master having been to the highest planes of the God Worlds
      of AKATHA can also guide his students there as well. Thereby, the truth
      seeker who has always yearned for God from the very beginning remembers
      through the Mahaji, the Living SRAOSHA Master what he or she has lost.
      > >
      > > Furthermore, I am 61 years old, born on July 20th 1950 in
      Metz, France (Germany before WWII). I am considered Prussian insofar as
      the family was descended fairly recently from Prussian royalty, the von
      Brauchitsch Bauer-Rothschilds. Being raised in the America's Midwest,
      the family was hidden away as of the problems with the early 20th
      Century Third Reich in Germany. The family was moved after the Weimer
      Regime collapsed in 1927, but my mother returned in the late 30's
      attempting to right things there with the estate. She met my father
      ,then a third cousin Bauer-Rothschild. They married and moved back to
      the states in 1951. Having spent my first year as an infant in Europe
      helped my conditioning for America being more subjective to the recent
      problems here. Drugs and loud music have infiltrated it severely with
      the only hope I believe is the music that AKATHA creates at Its
      seminars.
      > >
      > > Moreover, my first few years of life were plagued with not
      understanding myself being raised as a Catholic. It is true that the
      Catholic faith is wholesome regarding their ten commandments and pure
      living and speech. However, a lot was to be desired for me not
      distinguishing specifically  the essence of man as Soul until I met
      Paul Twitchell who appeared to me nightly in his Atma Sarup body in
      Sahaji or Soul Travel, the out-of-body projection. He appeared to me
      for most of two years starting in 1965 whilst I did not know who he was
      until seeing his picture on the cover of one of his books in 1971. By
      then he had passed onto his new job as Guardian of the Kazi Dawtz
      AKATHA Temple of Golden Wisdom on the Ninth Plane. Paulji (name of
      endearment) taught me the teachings of AKATHA then known as Eckankar. I
      became an Eckist in 1972, a few months after Paulji's translation
      (death). In his Atma Sarup or Soul Body appearance those few years
      before, he reminded
      > me of my training for leadership of the path. Peddar Zaskq
      (Paulji's spiritual name) predicted my mastership and leadership of
      AKATHA in his "Illuminated Way Letters" of January 1971. Thus, in 1988,
      I became the Mahaji, the 973rd Living SRAOSHA Master and brought AKATHA
      public to the world.
      > >
      >
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