6638Re: [EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous] Re: A Shake-up, Caffeine, and Some Birds
- Feb 26 2:30 PM
Thank you Non, None could say it better. Sometimes when I see some one else has managed to find the words to say what I've been thinking, it's just terrific, it's stupendous, it's comforting and exciting at the same time.
--- On Tue, 2/26/13, noneckchains <eckchains@...> wrote:
From: noneckchains <eckchains@...>
Subject: [EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous] Re: A Shake-up, Caffeine, and Some Birds
Date: Tuesday, February 26, 2013, 6:37 AMAnd this also shows how with any religious belief in an imaginary "mahanta", Saint, Guru, fantastical Leader, cartoon action Hero, Medium, channeled Entity, Cult Leader, online mate-to-be, Psychic.... it becomes a two edged sword. Life is life and there is no such thing as Perfection in all things. Openness to what is going on in your life and finding beauty is often balanced out naturally by also normal human mistakes and even painful events or awareness of the suffering of others.
So, what does the Grandiose true believer do, they end up needlessly blaming themselves when things seem to go wrong. Life is hard sometimes. Adding self-hate to the equation through eckankar beliefs, really just makes things worse, superstitious, and even paranoid, with a host of psycho/emotional difficulties.
Sometimes it's just easier and much more compassionate to be a human just doing your best, imho.
--- In EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com, "prometheus_973" wrote:
> It seems Klemp is grabbing
at straws to find some speck
of "wisdom" to impart upon
his flock of brain-washed
and gullible wannabe followers.
In this March 2013 issue of
The Mystic World of Eckankar
Klemp's front page article
spins three average stories
in order to create a "spiritual"
message from the ECK.
I find it interesting, still, that
Klemp continues to use "but"
when years ago he quoted Kant
and told H.I.s to avoid using
this word, especially, with one
another. He said its use rescinded
what was previously said and
was a nail in the coffin of invention.
The three stories come from
a Nigerian (of course), a Canadian,
and a U.S. woman. And, all three,
supposedly, show the workings
of the Holy Spirit in everyday
life. "BUT they often go unnoticed."
Okay, Jacob, the Nigerian, had done
some work for a corrupt government
agency (In Nigeria? Amazing!) "BUT
pay for his work was slow in coming."
"The unimaginable happened a
few days later." Curious, but how
would this be "unimaginable" when
Eckists are supposed to be working
with their imaginations? Anywho,
there was a massive shake up and
the corrupt officials were removed.
"Time had passed, BUT still Jacob
awaits his payment." He confesses
and admits to the sin of "smugness"
and in "being a channel for the
changes that took place." Odd that
the positive EK obeys the negative
power of ego? "Where was the humility?
Yet Jacob will be made right when
that lesson sinks in."
Thus, Klemp is saying that EKists
don't have to be Positive channels
for the EK to work. What about the
Mahanta? Anyway, it's stupid story!
Next comes the Canadian who's
on her vacation in a foreign country.
BTW- Three years earlier "Mary"
asked the Mahanta to help her
stop drinking coffee. She "sensed"
that it might be harmful to her
Once again, the "Principle of
the Threes" is being showcased.
Apparently Klemp is promoting
the impression that he (the Mahanta)
will get around to Eckists' requests
all in good time (times three?),
so keep the faith and don't lose
So, anyway, Mary who's wanted
to stop drinking coffee due to
what she considers as the harmful
effects of caffeine gets a "nudge"
while at a store to buy an Energy
Drink because it listed that it contained
a bunch of vitamins.
Are most Eckists this oblivious and/
or dimwitted? BTW-That was a rhetorical
question. Plus, she followed a "nudge"
to buy it! Aren't Eckists supposed to
be following their "nudges" seeing as
how the Mahanta is guiding them and
the "ECK" is lighting the way?
Guess what happens after "Mary"
has "three" cups of coffee and then
follows her nudge to have an energy
drink ultra high in caffeine?
"Mary went to the pool. There, she
began to feel queazy, BUT the feeling
would surely pass." Yes, heart palpitations
and a freak out! Not to worry, though,
a doctor was nearby and quickly diagnosed
her problem and had her drink lots
of water and lie down.
It was Klemp, the Mahanta, helping
Mary via a negative frightful experience
to give up her addiction to coffee/caffeine.
Apparently, Mary never learned to
look for caffeine on an ingredients
label nor learned to do all things in
moderation. It's not that caffeine is
harmful and should be given up, it's
the dosage. Once again, Klemp misses
the mark in, yet, another silly analysis
promoting his propaganda.
Yes, "The hand of the Master was
apparent here, even three years
after her request for help in over-
coming this dependency on caffeine."
The last story stupid story involves
birds and how they, and all animals,
will communicate with Eckists because
they recognize that EKists are their
angels. Just kidding. That last part
was mine, however, I'm sure this
belief isn't far from their imaginations
and their egomaniac delusions.
The mother bird flew up to the
feeder, but its feeding tray was
empty so she used her beak to
pry up the lid, hopped in and when
the lid came down she was trapped.
the mother bird chattered to her
"chicks" (fledglings) for help. They
saw "Carol" through a window and
went to her for help and flew at the
window to gain her attention. Carol
saw that the mother bird was trapped
so she went outside and freed her.
"The lesson borne by all three
stories is that divine love and
always at work among us. Look
for Its dealings."
It's too bad that Mary didn't use
some "intelligence" and see that
an "Energy Drink" contained about
the equivalency of 10 cups of
coffee or have the common sense
to know that it would be bad for
her. However, she did follow her
"nudge" and that didn't require
common sense nor intelligence.
It only required blind faith. Thus,
Klemp's message should be is
that nudges that lead to negative
events, in the long run, can have
positive results. Or, be careful
what you wish for. Either way,
it will always be a win/win for
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