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6614Re: Pseudo Events - Trivia (revised)

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  • prometheus_973
    Jan 21, 2013
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      Hello All,
      I find it interesting
      that there are some
      denominations in
      Judaism that are all
      inclusive. They see
      those in other denominations
      as fellow Jews. Whereas
      there are other more
      ultra orthodox
      denominations that
      don't.

      The same applies
      to Christianity. Some
      older denominations
      see themselves closer
      to the origins of God's
      teachings. They rely
      upon a stagnant old-
      world mindset and
      myth to give themselves
      authority above others.

      This same exclusive
      mindset applies to
      ECKankar. Rather than
      greet and support those
      who, also, believe in
      the Shabd (i.e. the Light
      and Sound) EKists will
      throw these same Spirit
      minded people out of
      their meetings, worship
      services, and ECK Centers.
      And, people cannot join-
      in with their "worship"
      of the Shabd without
      paying a membership
      fee. What other religion,
      other than Eckankar,
      requires a membership
      fee (called a donation
      for tax purposes)!

      Eckankar is all about
      initiation. That's why
      ECKists will pay (yearly)
      in order to get the
      membership card that
      leads to initiation...
      at least until Klemp's
      requirement blockade
      becomes unbearable
      and more initiations
      become (for all practical
      purposes) unattainable.

      P

      etznab@... wrote:
      All ancient and new religions, over time, have seen much of their
      scripture changed by inclusions or exclusions by councils or prophets
      and other "experts" or theologians and scribes influenced by
      sex, ego, power, basic greed, money and politics.

      ***

      You can say that again.



      prometheus wrote:
      (revised)
      Hello Etznab and All,
      Yes, Twit's plagiarisms
      are apparent to us and
      Klemp recognized it by
      admitting that PT needed
      to get ECKankar off the
      ground quickly and, thus,
      used other people's
      research to do so... by
      hook or crook.

      The end justifies the
      means (PT's lies) according
      to Klemp. EKists have
      accepted this and will
      overlook or rationalize
      this because they see
      the modern creation of
      ECKankar as the greater
      good. But, Negativity (lies)
      cannot bring forth Truth.

      The thing is, a person
      is supposed to cite their
      sources and put copied
      text inside of quotation
      marks. That's why they
      are called "quotation
      marks."

      If one doesn't use quotes
      or cite sources the reader
      is mislead into thinking
      that these are the actual
      words and ideas of the
      author/writer.

      Thus, Twitchell and,
      now, Klemp became
      false prophets via their
      own nefarious efforts
      and amoral behaviors.
      Klemp is the biggest
      hypocrite in EK and
      should be the last one
      to ever criticize an H.I.'s
      behavior!

      As far a "God" goes; it
      is interesting to look
      at the oldest religions
      that are still around.

      Twitchell, it's obvious,
      took a little something
      from all religions, but
      not necessarily the "best"
      from them as the story
      goes.

      Besides, most of these
      religious beliefs are flawed
      to begin with. That's one
      reason for the various
      denominations.

      Thought, perception and
      perspective from groups
      of believers dictated belief
      and experiences.

      And, this has usually led
      to change and has, in some
      cases, evolved over time
      (not always in a good way)
      while the fundamentalists
      have regressed into the
      literal beliefs of the lies,
      fabricated stories, myth,
      and exaggerations coming
      from known, unknown or
      unsubstantiated "original"
      sources pior to "prophetic"
      revisions.

      "Inspired" Scripture is
      always seen as coming
      from God, although, there
      are many degrees of
      perception. Truth cannot
      be easily validated, but
      religions by-pass any
      of the rational requirements.

      Religion via cultural/societal
      groups is the easy way and
      means to accept God's existence.
      The majority rules and large
      numbers give validation. This
      is why the powers that be have
      made it difficult to find happiness
      except by following endless
      dogma, rules, promises, faith
      and laws. It's a way to distract
      the masses from the truth while
      keeping them under control,
      and off balance for the clerics
      and scribes to manipulate.

      Perhaps, The Real, individual
      path, is via deconstruction.

      All ancient and new religions,
      over time, have seen much
      of their scripture changed
      by inclusions or exclusions
      by councils or prophets and
      other "experts" or theologians
      and scribes influenced by
      sex, ego, power, basic greed,
      money and politics.

      Hinduism is the oldest
      religion, next come:
      Judaism; Zoroastrianism;
      Jainism & Buddhism;
      Christianity; Islam.

      It's interesting to look
      at how these old school
      religions have morphed
      into various denominations
      and sects.

      Prometheus
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