6565Re: A BOOK ABOUT LOVE
- Dec 30, 2012Apologies to all if I did not respond since the 27th ... my Yahoo account has been bouncing again. I've never known this to happen so much as in the last couple years. It seems that my account bounces emails now on average about every six weeks. And when it does I don't receive any Yahoo posts in the mail (until I unbounce it). Not for any Yahoo group!
--- In EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com, "iam999freedom" <iam999freedom@...> wrote:
> The gnosis is a lot of some say, others say, still others say (my comment, yeah sure).
> The other version about Adam only wanting sex sounds more guy typical LOL.
> The HBO version is a spin of a myth to capitalize on a cultural phenomenon.
> It all sounds so ludicrous. LOL
> --- In EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com, "prometheus_973" <prometheus_973@> wrote:
> > Hello Etznab and All,
> > Yes, the gospel here:
> > http://gnosis.org/lilith.htm
> > had a very warped way
> > of viewing women as
> > well. I had read, elsewhere,
> > that Lilith was created
> > in the same way as Adam
> > and was his equal, but
> > she didn't want to stay
> > with Adam, she was more
> > spiritual. Plus, Adam was
> > a tool, was domineering
> > and only wanted sex.
> > Thus, Lilith asked God
> > if she could be with
> > him in Heaven and this
> > was granted. Therefore,
> > Lilith was not a demon
> > and evil but was actually
> > very spiritual.
> > The HBO series "True Blood"
> > has a different take on Lilith.
> > She was the first Vampire and
> > God's first, perfect, creation.
> > Prometheus
> > etznab wrote:
> > Too bad there wasn't someone to challenge the writers at the time of
> > the creation. It seems there was not, but maybe there was and they were
> > eliminated for having a rational mind. It's not much different today
> > because one can see where words were cribbed, changed around and where
> > myth and propaganda took its place. It sometimes happens when a person
> > tries to point these things out that others often react with anger.
> > They will try to attack you and your work. I have seen it over at
> > a.r.e. many times and it hasn't stopped. The message I read today was:
> > "I wonder why people really bother themselves about showing others the
> > charade in eckankar. If you really believe it is all crap but others
> > choose to believe in it then leave them be. [... .]"
> > https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#
> > !topic/alt.religion.eckankar/H\
> > 82gz2n-WqA
> > Can anybody tell me how many men, women and children were killed in the
> > name of "religion" because people BELIEVED and they were left to be?
> > I think the problem with "beliefs" is that one can take a natural event
> > in history and with "belief" make a hundred, or more ficticious
> > versions of it. What this can do, however, is set a hundred or more
> > people against one another. And as they are allowed to be in their
> > "belief" that each of the stories is literally true they can have
> > children and teach them to believe as well.
> > As it is today there are so many cultures following so many religions
> > (that also interpret history and explain creation) holding people
> > within the yoke of so many particular "beliefs". And not all, but some
> > of the people who don't agree with one another will fight and die for
> > their beliefs ... regardless whether they know them to be true, or
> > where and how they even evolved.
> > ***
> > For the record, I can't prove the credibility of Lila as described by
> > the sources I quoted and know that it could be as Prometheus stated; so
> > many mental gymnastics, whatever. At least I could mention it though,
> > ask for feedback and not get strung up on a cross for doing so.
> > I think one of the ways to arrive at truth is to offer something up to
> > others for critical inspection. There is a "freedom of religion" in
> > America which protects people's right to "believe" in whatever, but at
> > the same time if a person researches the evolution and creation of
> > religious dogma, etc., that is not the same as attacking other people,
> > IMO; neither is sharing the research on a public forum. It is simply
> > historical research and a desire to clarify fact from fiction. I
> > believe the latter is also a right under the U.S. constitution.
> > Non wrote:
> > Kind of funny actually, that Adam had to try out bestiality to get
> > God's attention. Also, how could God be so stupid as to get it right
> > for the beasts, but not for Adam? Sounds like God is very human trying
> > to figure all of this out, and trying to explain how there could be
> > variations for humans in sexuality, androgynous, and even women
> > complaining about their preference as far as sexual positions, and then
> > being horribly punished for their insolence.
> > I needed a good laugh! So typical of religious myths to explain things
> > by pulling stuff out of your arse. Sorry, had to.
> > Non ;)
> > <prometheus wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello All,
> > > It's all interesting mental
> > > gymnastics and circular
> > > thinking fueled by myth.
> > > When reading about lila I
> > > thought of Lillith and how
> > > God kept screwing up in
> > > order to please Adam.
> > >
> > http://gnosis.org/lilith.htm
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