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6522Re: [EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous] It's So Sad About the Newtown, CT. Shootings

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  • Janice Pfeiffer
    Dec 17, 2012
      The news reports on these things brought tears to my eyes.  The terror those little kids must have felt had to be tremendous.
      I didn't read any comments by clergy but I guess ministers always use things like that to convince people they need to evaluate their lives and turn to God.  I don't see how anyone could think God is demonstating a grander plan or even preparing people for his grander plan by such horrific tragedies like this.  Seems like the Governor didn't know what to say so he wants to rush into spring.  I can not believe a minister would imply that kids are better off dead to avoid sin.
      I guess I would be closer to the eckist on this one.  Although it hurts me to think of the terror those little babes must have felt, I believe those who died will be okay and that they do live. 
      These kinds of things are so sad because they are senseless.  There does not seem to be any real reason why those children and teachers died except one very mean spirited individual did it.
      I am tired of hearing about the mental illness angle.  These people aren't mentally ill,  They have sense enough to plan it out.  They are sick some where deep in their souls. Even most fierce animals don't kill for anything but the need for food.  No one with a soul could claim they killed little kids because they were angry, sad, hurt, jealous or whatever.
      But then again, maybe if there is a next lesson for me it will be developing some compassion for people who are cold enough to take a gun and shoot little kids. 
      Pretty steep order, I would say

      --- On Mon, 12/17/12, prometheus_973 <prometheus_973@...> wrote:

      From: prometheus_973 <prometheus_973@...>
      Subject: [EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous] It's So Sad About the Newtown, CT. Shootings
      To: EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Monday, December 17, 2012, 1:54 AM

      Hello All,
      I've been watching the
      TV coverage of this tragedy
      for a few days now. It
      makes one wonder how
      a mentally deranged
      young man can do such
      evil and to such innocent
      children... face-to-face!

      However, I found the
      religious take on all
      of it to be quite strange.
      Some of the comments
      in the prayers of the
      ministers were odd.

      One cleric said that
      it happened in order
      to have people to
      question life and to
      be able to go through
      their own transformation.
      Thus, it's a test!

      One guy mentioned that
      the children would not
      have to experience sin.

      "After passion comes

      I'm not sure why people
      were praying to God and
      talking to or beseeching
      God when he didn't offer
      up any protection to these
      innocent children. But,
      are innocent children in
      other countries protected
      from harm? It's like how
      Klemp protects his eckists.

      The Governor of CT. sounded
      like Peter Sellers in "Being There"
      when talking about after Winter
      there will be Spring and growth.

      There is belief that a grander
      plan is afoot and that it won't
      be revealed until you can no
      longer speak and share and
      this gives those left hope that
      the promises will be fulfilled.

      I'm thinking that Eckists
      are probably sad, too, but
      also think that they see it
      as karma being karma and
      that there is no death.

      "What is seen is temporary
      but what is unseen is eternal."

      Do clerics merely repeat what
      we already know or is it merely
      a pep talk while reminding
      us of what we are supposed
      to believe? Or, do they see
      themselves as the experts
      who have memorized scripture,
      dress up in special garments,
      while we regular people are
      the ignorant sheep meant to
      blindly follow?

      It is interesting to see a
      commonality of sorts, but
      individual choice seems to
      take precedence as it always


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