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6098Re: [EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous] Klemp Rationalizes His Fraud

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  • Janice Pfeiffer
    Feb 4, 2012
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      I always did have a problem with the living eck master thing but I tried so hard to over come the resistance.  I did for the most part I think because I did see Klemp in my dreams and in contemplations.  In my dreams he was weird though like there was something wrong with him.  I think it was my higher self showing me that he wasn't what he seemed to be. 
      When I would hear Klemp speak, I had to over come the impulse to think that he bordered on being slow witted.  To me, he just didn't appear very intelligent and it was hard for me to understand why no one else seemed to see that.  Over all, he was revered so much that anything he did was marvelous.  My question today for myself and others is ; How do you make a God out of an uninspiring moron?  Looking back, I don't know how I managed to fool myself so badly.  I felt conflicted inside about it but on the outside, I tried so hard to believe he was worthy of all the adoration he was given.  I would like to hear if others felt that way about the living eck master concept. 
       Shortly before I got out he started adapting Christian songs to Eckankar.  One I remember is Amazing Grace.  At that point, I knew he had to be lacking in something.  To openly take Christian songs and try to use them for Eckankar was stupid to me since eckist were supposed to be the elite in spiritual development.  To me it said that Klemp had no talent or inspiration to draw on.  He, like Twitchell had to steal from everyone else. 
      As far as how self delusional Klemp might be about his lies, I kind of feel like he has bought the idea himself that he is the living eck master.  I think he believes it.  He was in a mental institution at one point.  I think it is probably something like how schizophrenics ofthen think they are Jesus.
      For the most part now , I feel ashamed of ever having been an eckist.  I only feel comfortable talking about it with others who were eckist too. 
       So thank all you guys for being out there. 

      --- On Fri, 2/3/12, prometheus_973 <prometheus_973@...> wrote:

      From: prometheus_973 <prometheus_973@...>
      Subject: [EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous] Klemp Rationalizes His Fraud
      To: EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Friday, February 3, 2012, 10:43 PM

      It's interesting to see
      and hear what the religious
      tricksters and conmen
      come up with in order
      to rationalize their guilt
      away. They will claim to
      be providing a "service"
      for people... to comfort
      them and take away their

      Klemp certainly gives Lip
      Service to this claim:

      How do the teachings
      of Eckankar help people?

      The most important
      concept we need to
      get across is the continuity
      of life and going from
      this world to the next
      and beyond. People worry
      most about meeting
      the end of this life. [end]

      Really? I disagree!

      Now, it could be that
      Klemp is concerned with
      death since he was born
      in 1942. He's getting closer
      and closer to the grave.

      And, I'm sure that many
      from the Baby Boomer
      generation (the generation
      Klemp dislikes most) are
      thinking more about their
      health and the end of life.

      But there are those living
      in politically unstable countries
      who have more immediate
      fears concerning day-to-
      day life and freedoms.

      What many people
      are concerned about,
      here and now, in this
      present time versus the
      future is having enough
      money to pay the bills in
      order to continue and
      maintain a healthy life
      style. And, not being
      alone and, thus, dying
      alone is an important
      issue too.

      Let's face it. People
      need God more than
      God needs them, unless,
      you're Klemp... a false
      God called Mahanta!

      Klemp needs his flock
      of suckers. Even if HK
      stepped aside for the
      next conman to take
      over he'd still be writing
      his trashy books and
      be posing as a God of
      some sorts. Maybe he'd
      move to some private
      island and start rumors
      that he had been reborn
      as Rebazar had. Klemp
      wants to continue the
      myth to be remembered!

      Young people certainly
      aren't concerned about
      death... they're concerned
      about finding a spouse,
      and having a good job,
      a place to live, and money
      for more education and
      a car, and gas.... maybe
      a new computer or i-phone/

      In truth, HK is trying
      to purge himself of
      his Guilt for not only
      having deficiencies
      as a God/Master but
      for his continued deceit.

      Consequently, he'll boost
      his ego and self-important
      image and, thus, feel
      good hand important
      that he's providing a
      "spiritual" service for
      the New Age segment
      of the population who
      are attracted to Eckankar's
      (Twitchell's) Western
      twist and edit of Radhasoami
      and Ruhani Satsang.

      But, it (religion) is all
      the same... just different
      dogma and jargon. Klemp's
      Eckankar is no exception!

      HK has millions squirreled
      away in an off-shore
      account so money and
      financial security is not
      a problem for him. Time
      is Klemp's big enemy
      and fear. That's why he
      wants to be remembered
      as being a great spiritual
      master even though his
      followers are deluded.

      Don't Eckists "worship"
      Klemp, their Mahanta?
      Sure! That's Klemp's plan
      to trick them! But, he
      sees it as being for their
      own good... he's helping
      them to find peace and
      happiness without fear.
      Eckists should believe
      in themselves, as Soul,
      and not give-up Soul's
      authority to decide and
      know. Initiations are
      bogus anyway and are
      simply used to dangle
      in front of people....
      that's the real "plus
      element" in Eckankar.
      There's Service, Coin,
      Time, Promises of
      Protection and Guidance
      "plus" that next initiation!

      Look at the Spiritual
      Exercises of EK that
      are designed around
      this purpose. Eckists
      will dream of, contemplate
      upon, and beseech
      their God/Mahanta
      for all sorts of things.

      These S.E.s are designed
      for Eckists to see HK's
      physical image don't
      they? Thus, the Mahanta
      brainwashing is reenforced
      over and over on a daily

      And, this is why it's so
      difficult to escape from
      codependency. There
      can never be real/truthful
      "Spiritual Freedom" for
      Eckists. They will always
      need Klemp... he's their
      crutch and their meth.


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