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5934Re: Klemp's Vanity - His Wisdom Notes and EK Brochure Photo

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  • prometheus_973
    Nov 7, 2011
      Hello Diana and All,
      Klemp cares about
      the more youthful
      image he's projecting
      in the PR brochures
      and his official pic
      displayed in EK Centers
      and at Intros because
      it appeals to younger
      people more than his
      old real life image does!

      Thus, more suckers
      are attracted to the
      bait and switch packaging
      versus the reality which
      would repel them. LOL!

      At a Seminar (after
      seeing Klemp) they
      simply decide to stay
      until he gets done talking.
      Klemp was never too
      photogenic anyway but
      now he's really getting
      pathetic looking... as
      a Mahanta/God!

      Really, how can Eckists
      believe in or talk about
      the ECK Masters like
      Rebazar, who are
      supposedly over 500
      years old and still maintain
      a physical body, when
      Klemp claims to be the
      greatest and most spiritually
      advanced Mahanta ever!
      Yet, he's wasting away!
      It doesn't make sense if
      it was true! The truth is
      there are No ECK Masters
      and Klemp is a phony!

      Pretend can be fun and
      the imagination can make
      the mundane magical,
      it's an escape, and it can
      be used (as lies) to explain
      things in mythological and
      unscientific terms because
      science can't explain it
      away with concrete analysis
      and proven facts. Besides,
      would most people listen?
      Therefore, the ECK Masters
      are as imagined as the
      characters in Harry Potter,
      or the Lord of the Rings,
      et al.

      Thus, if Eckankar was for
      real Klemp wouldn't be
      aging and rapidly! He'd
      look like Rebazar or one
      of the other portraits of
      those fake ECK Masters.

      Funny that the artist who
      did the latest ECK Master
      portraits made them look
      younger than Klemp's real-
      time current photo (not the
      embellished portrait)! Just
      go the eckankar.org and
      see for yourself! It's comical!

      Prometheus


      dianastanley wrote:
      I don't understand why
      he cares what he looks
      like he never hardly ever
      makes public appearences.
      Maybe he has a double
      to do all public pr work!!!
      Diana




      <prometheus wrote:
      >
      > Hello Diana and All,
      > At one time Klemp tried
      > contact lens but eventually
      > switched back to glasses.
      > I'm told he received some
      > criticism, from H.I.s via
      > chelas, that contacts were
      > more of a vanity issue than
      > a sight/vision issue. ECKists
      > can't have their mealy looking
      > Mahanta project a fraudulent
      > appearance because that
      > would indicate other frauds
      > might be taking place and
      > perpetuated. LOL!
      >
      > However, I've also read that
      > contacts can offer people
      > better vision than glasses,
      > but maybe that was just
      > a slanted PR story to sell
      > a product like Eckankar
      > does.
      >
      > I'm assuming that this is
      > why Klemp won't dye his
      > hair or get hair plugs. I
      > wonder what else Klemp
      > does, or doesn't do, that
      > is natural? Boxers, briefs,
      > or commando?
      >
      > Prometheus
      >
      > dianastanley wrote:
      > maybe he should try botox
      > or a face lift. It would be
      > a miricale that he got his
      > youth back!
      > Diana
      >
      >
      > <prometheus wrote:
      > >
      > > Hello All,
      > > This is simply more proof
      > > of Eckankar's deceptions.
      > >
      > > It's come to my attention
      > > that Klemp is still using
      > > a 10-15 old photo as his
      > > "Official Photo" which is
      > > to be displayed at ECK
      > > functions and EK Centers.
      > >
      > > WHY? Really, why is this
      > > being done?
      > >
      > > Isn't Klemp comfortable
      > > with his aging?
      > >
      > > On the front page of the
      > > September, 2011 "The
      > > Mystic World of ECKankar"
      > > is a current photo of Klemp.
      > >
      > > However, if one looks at
      > > the back page where "The
      > > Wisdom Notes" are given
      > > there is the older "Official
      > > Photo" depicting a younger
      > > looking Klemp.
      > >
      > > Is the real and present day
      > > photo depicting the Outer
      > > LEM while the "Official (past)
      > > Photo" depicting the Inner
      > > Master/Mahanta? Is that
      > > Klemp's rationale for this
      > > subliminal trickery?
      > >
      > > Really, I don't think that this
      > > issue has ever been addressed
      > > since ECKists aren't permitted
      > > to ask such questions without
      > > risking reprisals by their RESAs
      > > or via the ESC (Klemp).
      > >
      > > But, in Eckankar, what is reality?
      > > Is it anything one wants to deny
      > > and imagine differently as you
      > > like it?
      > >
      > > This photo switch is simply
      > > another trick that Klemp uses
      > > to cloud the minds and reasoning
      > > abilities of his followers so they
      > > can feel good about their religion
      > > of pretend Masters, Initiations,
      > > and Planes of Consciousness.
      > >
      > > This denial of the obvious is
      > > why ECKists are comfortable
      > > and passive sheep and/or are
      > > chickens in the EK hen house.
      > > However, on the other hand,
      > > ECKists are stressed out as
      > > well.
      > >
      > > ECKists must be Vahanas/
      > > Missionary's and give Service
      > > to Klemp (and Lip Service to
      > > the public) in order to advance
      > > and/or to maintain their status
      > > as official spokespersons.
      > >
      > > The Lip Service is when they
      > > give the "official" presentations
      > > which omit facts with the guise
      > > of being "too much spiritual
      > > food" for the seeker to handle.
      > >
      > > Come on, just tell them how
      > > long it will probably take them
      > > to become free of Karma or
      > > reach the 5th initiation! And,
      > > how many more years (and
      > > what's required) it should
      > > take them to reach the 7th
      > > initiation. Then tell them
      > > how long it will be for them
      > > to reach the 8th initiation...
      > > maybe the RESA would know
      > > that answer. LOL!
      > >
      > > Prometheus
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > From Dec, 2009:
      > > Isn't it strange that a "spiritual
      > > master" (a Mahanta) would still
      > > be using an outdated photo.
      > > This shows that Klemp is attached
      > > to KAL's lower plane influences.
      > > This is more proof that HK has
      > > fallen from SUGMAD's Grace (not
      > > that he ever had it). Still, for some
      > > ECKists Klemp's youthful appearance
      > > attachment must be confusing.
      > > Others simply turn a Blind Eye
      > > to it all... they like the public
      > > seeing the younger looking photo.
      > > It's less embarrassing than the
      > > real thing. H.I.s, especially, live
      > > in a state of denial because it's
      > > comfortable and convenient
      > > and EK Membership has become
      > > habitual and ego driven.
      > >
      > > {Note: Annual EK Membership
      > > is actually required in order to
      > > receive and keep initiations. The
      > > reenrolling of one's membership
      > > must become habitual or risk
      > > losing the fake connection with
      > > the Inner via the outer monetary
      > > membership requirement. Thus,
      > > EK membership is ego, as well as,
      > > fear driven.}
      > >
      > > Prometheus
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