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5932Re: Klemp's Vanity - His Wisdom Notes and EK Brochure Photo

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  • prometheus_973
    Nov 4, 2011
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      Hello Diana and All,
      At one time Klemp tried
      contact lens but eventually
      switched back to glasses.
      I'm told he received some
      criticism, from H.I.s via
      chelas, that contacts were
      more of a vanity issue than
      a sight/vision issue. ECKists
      can't have their mealy looking
      Mahanta project a fraudulent
      appearance because that
      would indicate other frauds
      might be taking place and
      perpetuated. LOL!

      However, I've also read that
      contacts can offer people
      better vision than glasses,
      but maybe that was just
      a slanted PR story to sell
      a product like Eckankar
      does.

      I'm assuming that this is
      why Klemp won't dye his
      hair or get hair plugs. I
      wonder what else Klemp
      does, or doesn't do, that
      is natural? Boxers, briefs,
      or commando?

      Prometheus

      dianastanley wrote:
      maybe he should try botox
      or a face lift. It would be
      a miricale that he got his
      youth back!
      Diana


      <prometheus wrote:
      >
      > Hello All,
      > This is simply more proof
      > of Eckankar's deceptions.
      >
      > It's come to my attention
      > that Klemp is still using
      > a 10-15 old photo as his
      > "Official Photo" which is
      > to be displayed at ECK
      > functions and EK Centers.
      >
      > WHY? Really, why is this
      > being done?
      >
      > Isn't Klemp comfortable
      > with his aging?
      >
      > On the front page of the
      > September, 2011 "The
      > Mystic World of ECKankar"
      > is a current photo of Klemp.
      >
      > However, if one looks at
      > the back page where "The
      > Wisdom Notes" are given
      > there is the older "Official
      > Photo" depicting a younger
      > looking Klemp.
      >
      > Is the real and present day
      > photo depicting the Outer
      > LEM while the "Official (past)
      > Photo" depicting the Inner
      > Master/Mahanta? Is that
      > Klemp's rationale for this
      > subliminal trickery?
      >
      > Really, I don't think that this
      > issue has ever been addressed
      > since ECKists aren't permitted
      > to ask such questions without
      > risking reprisals by their RESAs
      > or via the ESC (Klemp).
      >
      > But, in Eckankar, what is reality?
      > Is it anything one wants to deny
      > and imagine differently as you
      > like it?
      >
      > This photo switch is simply
      > another trick that Klemp uses
      > to cloud the minds and reasoning
      > abilities of his followers so they
      > can feel good about their religion
      > of pretend Masters, Initiations,
      > and Planes of Consciousness.
      >
      > This denial of the obvious is
      > why ECKists are comfortable
      > and passive sheep and/or are
      > chickens in the EK hen house.
      > However, on the other hand,
      > ECKists are stressed out as
      > well.
      >
      > ECKists must be Vahanas/
      > Missionary's and give Service
      > to Klemp (and Lip Service to
      > the public) in order to advance
      > and/or to maintain their status
      > as official spokespersons.
      >
      > The Lip Service is when they
      > give the "official" presentations
      > which omit facts with the guise
      > of being "too much spiritual
      > food" for the seeker to handle.
      >
      > Come on, just tell them how
      > long it will probably take them
      > to become free of Karma or
      > reach the 5th initiation! And,
      > how many more years (and
      > what's required) it should
      > take them to reach the 7th
      > initiation. Then tell them
      > how long it will be for them
      > to reach the 8th initiation...
      > maybe the RESA would know
      > that answer. LOL!
      >
      > Prometheus
      >
      >
      >
      > From Dec, 2009:
      > Isn't it strange that a "spiritual
      > master" (a Mahanta) would still
      > be using an outdated photo.
      > This shows that Klemp is attached
      > to KAL's lower plane influences.
      > This is more proof that HK has
      > fallen from SUGMAD's Grace (not
      > that he ever had it). Still, for some
      > ECKists Klemp's youthful appearance
      > attachment must be confusing.
      > Others simply turn a Blind Eye
      > to it all... they like the public
      > seeing the younger looking photo.
      > It's less embarrassing than the
      > real thing. H.I.s, especially, live
      > in a state of denial because it's
      > comfortable and convenient
      > and EK Membership has become
      > habitual and ego driven.
      >
      > {Note: Annual EK Membership
      > is actually required in order to
      > receive and keep initiations. The
      > reenrolling of one's membership
      > must become habitual or risk
      > losing the fake connection with
      > the Inner via the outer monetary
      > membership requirement. Thus,
      > EK membership is ego, as well as,
      > fear driven.}
      >
      > Prometheus
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