5928Re: The So-Called and Imagined Advantages of ECK Membership
- Oct 30, 2011Hello Diana and All,
Gail was as much the
opportunist and scammer
as Twitchell. Twit had
his thing (Eckankar) and
Gail wanted hers (Sunasu).
However, I remember
reading where Paul told
ECKists not to be selling
Sunasu at ECK functions,
but that changed when
Darwin took over. Klemp
had to reenforce PT's rule
and expand it to include
all items because ECKists
tend to sell their New Age
products to other ECKists
and to even rely upon this
narrow market in order
to be successful...........
Klemp, later, told these
EK entrepreneurs that if
this was the case, then,
their products probably
weren't all that good to
This is exactly like it is
when selling Eckankar!
It's not that good of a
product and, therefore,
it has a narrow market
and a small following.
I believe that Gail sold
her Sunasu Company to
her sister, who lives in
California, and that it is
still sold to some extent
but is not a very big seller
nor is it distributed too
I remember, when Darwin
was the eck, that Gail had
a seminar about SunaSu,
that was a vitamin and
protien supplement her
an Paul had created, She
talked Darwin into appearing
and saying how great it
was. It was supposed to
be for the public. As you
can imagine when the
eckist heard about it we
all showed up!!! By the
way I recieved it free
every month, so I could
keep painting for them
i guess. I did'nt take it
as it made me sick. This
is the first time I have
revealed my dark little
secret. Now I feel better.
Are they still selling it
by the way?
"Non" <eckchains@...> wrote:
>persons in the ads try to convince you of how wonderful and normal their lives
> This reminds me of the current bombardment of Mormon TV ads. All of these
are and the last statement they say is "...and I am Mormon". Ekists will do the
same thing at first, a wolf in sheep's clothing, hiding their bizarre beliefs.
>that there is more of a sense of additional suffering when things don't go well,
> As far as ekankar curing all that ails you? No, in fact It often seems to me
especially health problems. It's kind of like what happened with Steve Jobs. At
one point in his life he believed that he didn't need to shower because of his
vegan diet and spiritual beliefs even though his coworkers had filed complaints.
His beliefs may have opened up a wealth of creativity, but I think he was
already a creative guy and very intelligent. This did not make him the most
compassionate of persons, from what I understand about his Biography, even
though he was supposedly a Zen Buddhist. He was also prone to a similar MAGIKAL
thinking that ekists fall for. Steve Jobs tried psychics, some kind of macro
vegan diet, acupuncture, etc., when it is quite possible that he was fortunate
to have had the type of pancreatic cancer that could have been cured with
surgery, but he didn't like the idea of someone cutting his body open.
>go with what their doctors tell them they should do, especially if their spouse
> My experience with some ekists though, is that when push comes to shove, they
has anything to say about it. It's "as if" they have a split personality. That
can't feel very good.
>fact cause a form of suffering by keeping them in a state of delusional
> It's all just MAGIKAL thinking that ekankar and klemp do anything, but may in
self-contempt and anxiety, as they can't really live up to expectations that are
always out of reach. Without true compassion, life is just kind of miserable
IMHO. To err is Human and life is just not that easy, even for the richest guy
in the cemetery.
> noneckster ; )
> --- In EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com, "prometheus_973"
> > Would anybody like to
> > comment upon PT's and,
> > now, Klemp's snake-oil
> > remedies for all that ail
> > you?
> > ******************************
> > Advanced Spiritual Study as a
> > Next Step on the Road Home
> > to God
> > Experience the miracle of
> > spiritual growth A true spiritual
> > teaching makes a link between
> > God and you. And it provides
> > a guide to help make your
> > journey as easy and direct
> > as possible.
> > Eckankar has an inner and
> > outer living guide. He has
> > made the journey into the
> > heart of God but has returned
> > to help us on our way to Self-
> > Realization and, ultimately,
> > God-Realization. This guide
> > is the Mahanta, the Living
> > ECK Master.
> > The next step on your
> > spiritual journey can be
> > linking up with him through
> > membership in Eckankar.
> > You will then experience
> > the awesome miracle of
> > advanced spiritual growth
> > a life of joy, meaning, and
> > creativity.
> > Who are the members of Eckankar?
> > Members of Eckankar (ECKists)
> > come from all walks of life.
> > ECKists are homemakers,
> > businesspeople, and retirees.
> > They are professionals, educators,
> > scientists, and farmers. They
> > come from all age-groups, a
> > ll races and nationalities, and
> > all religious backgrounds.
> > Like most people, ECKists
> > have families, careers, and
> > daily struggles. They live
> > a life of joyful participation
> > in the mainstream of society.
> > ECKists know they're responsible
> > for their own experiences in
> > life. They know tomorrow is
> > the result of today's thoughts,
> > feelings, and actions. They
> > also know that giving love
> > and service to their family
> > and community is one way
> > to increase their understanding
> > of God's love.
> > More about membership in
> > Eckankar:
> > Spiritual BenefitsReach
> > your highest spiritual potential.
> > See the bigger picture of life.
> > Explore the many facets of
> > divine truth.
> > DiscoursesTake the next
> > step on your spiritual journey.
> > Study at home or in classes.
> > InitiationsClimb the stairway
> > to spiritual freedom through
> > the ECK initiationsthe direct
> > link between Soul and Divine
> > Spirit.
> > ECK ActivitiesWorship services,
> > introductory presentations,
> > book discussion classes, seminars,
> > spiritual fellowship.
> > Membership FactsIndividual
> > and family memberships, publications,
> > youth study.
> > ***************************************
> > BTW- I found this info on:
> > http://www.eckankar.org/Membership/index.html
> > listed on a FB site:
> > https://www.facebook.com/EckankarArizona
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