5924Re: The So-Called and Imagined Advantages of ECK Membership
- Oct 29, 2011My comments on PT's
and, now, Klemp's snake-
*Advanced Spiritual Study as
a Next Step on the Road Home
ME: How did this become
"advanced spiritual study"
when Twitchell simply
plagiarized and/or tweaked
other religious myths, lies,
*Experience the miracle of
spiritual growth. A true spiritual
teaching makes a link between
God and you. And it provides
a guide to help make your
journey as easy and direct
ME: "Spiritual growth" via
EK is an illusion, especially,
after years and years of thinking,
doing, and reading the same
old crap that is merely presented
in a new wrapper. Christianity
has more grandiose "miracles"
attributed to its teachings
than does Eckankar via Klemp
the "Mahanta." Klemp is certainly
no inner "guide" and the Eckankar
Guidelines and RESA structure
Do Not make the "journey
(through the initiations) easy!"
Just the opposite... it's tedious!
*Eckankar has an inner and
outer living guide. He has
made the journey into the
heart of God but has returned
to help us on our way to Self-
Realization and, ultimately,
God-Realization. This guide
is the Mahanta, the Living
ME: ECKists are taught to
fixate upon the Mahanta
during the day and to think
of him at bedtime. It's no
wonder that they have dreams
with him appearing. Fixate
on anything during the day
and before bedtime and see
for yourself what you dream
about! BTW- How has Klemp
"returned to help us" when
he was initiated to his position
in this lifetime and by a person
he claims was a Black Magician
(Darwin Gross)? Klemp even
claimed to have planned the
transition with Gross in a
Sound Proof Dark Room where
Klemp worked. Thus, if Eckankar
is the Religion of the Light and
Sound of God why was Light
and Sound absent in HK's
work environment and for
the two meetings planning
the transition and the Passing
of the Rod of ECK Power?
*The next step on your
spiritual journey can be
linking up with him through
membership in Eckankar.
You will then experience
the awesome miracle of
advanced spiritual growth
a life of joy, meaning, and
ME: "Membership" is the key
word. Klemp doesn't believe
in "No Chela Left Behind."
There is no free anything in
Klemp's little world. Thus,
ECKists have to maintain an
outer paid membership or
risk losing even their "inner
initiations." Therefore, there
are strings attached to this
primary focus of EK membership.
ECKists usually deny their
desire to advance in initiations,
but will tend to imagine
themselves higher and more
advanced with "inner" initiations.
This is one of many Delusions
that ECKists use in order to
cope with Klemp's selfish desire
to keep himself heads higher
than any other ECKist! It's
also a Power trip for Klemp
since, before ECKankar, he
was never in a position of power
or of respect.
*Who are the members of Eckankar?
ME: Usually most are good people
(some are narcissists and control
freaks and have personality issues),
but most are screwed up in other
ways that only a religious belief
of righteousness can instill.
*Members of Eckankar (ECKists)
come from all walks of life.
ECKists are homemakers,
businesspeople, and retirees.
They are professionals, educators,
scientists, and farmers. They
come from all age-groups, all
races and nationalities, and
all religious backgrounds.
ME: It's true that most ECKists
simply replaced their old religion
with this New Age one which
is just as dogmatic and distorted.
Most thought it was a "spiritual
path" and overlooked the religious
hierarchy with all the rules and
requirements for advancement
in consciousness via initiation.
Actually there wasn't a problem
with advancement until Klemp
took over 30 years ago.
*Like most people, ECKists
have families, careers, and
daily struggles. They live
a life of joyful participation
in the mainstream of society.
ME: That's the problem. ECKists,
who are H.I.s, are supposed to
be higher in consciousness than
the 4th Plane "God" that all of
the other religions look to and
pray to for guidance. Yet, they
are just like everyone else and
many are much more screwed
up with their arrogance of having
superiority via of a substituted
delusional religious belief that
is the "highest" and most advanced
in the world. Then, again, this
is how any member of any religion
views others outside of their group.
*ECKists know they're responsible
for their own experiences in
life. They know tomorrow is
the result of today's thoughts,
feelings, and actions. They
also know that giving love
and service to their family
and community is one way
to increase their understanding
of God's love.
ME: That's a distortion and a lie!
ECKists know that their Mahanta
belief takes priority over family.
There are many ECKists that, for
one reason or another, don't have
anything to do with close family
members and it's because of ECKankar!
And, ECKists are encouraged to
give "service" to ECKankar first
and community second or third.
Actually, "service" within the
community is merely another
missionary method they use
in order to infiltrate groups,
spread their teachings, and
recruit new members. True,
ECKists are responsible for all
that befalls them. Klemp takes
no responsibility for anything
negative, although, in these
lower worlds he shouldn't be
taking credit for the "positive"
*More about membership in
ME: Yes, it's an annual paid
membership that is required
in order to advance and to
your highest spiritual potential.
See the bigger picture of life.
Explore the many facets of
ME: ECKankar has many
Eastern ideas that most
Western minds have not
explored and this makes
it seem unique and does
get one to think and
ponder new perspectives,
however, it all needs to be
digested with a grain of salt.
In truth, no religious dogma
can make these claims when
the results of "spiritual growth"
rests upon Soul/oneself.
*DiscoursesTake the next
step on your spiritual journey.
Study at home or in classes.
ME: To become more indoctrinated
and, thereby, to advance one
must "re-study" the discourses
(that Twitchell "compiled") in
a class setting. This is where
the dogma will be explained
and clarified so that the student
will come to know the parameters
of this belief.
*InitiationsClimb the stairway
to spiritual freedom through
the ECK initiationsthe direct
link between Soul and Divine
ME: The "stairway" for 99.99%
of ECKists stops at the 7th initiation
and this will take up a lot of ones
free time and, now, about 35-40
years. However, there is NO
"spiritual freedom" as one advances
up the stairway... just the opposite!
One becomes more controlled
by the RESA police and less free
to think or say and do what you
might want. All ECKists have been
instructed Not to gossip, speak
negatively, and to practice silence
by going within for answers. The
problem is always with the chela/
student and not with the teachings
or with the "Master." Klemp never
takes responsibility for his lack
of leadership or for not advancing
the consciousness (via initiation)
of his chelas and H.I.s.
*ECK ActivitiesWorship services,
introductory presentations, book
discussion classes, seminars,
ME: One has to wonder who or
what is "worshipped" at the Sunday
ECK Worship Services (EWS)?
Basically, it's just an excuse to
get together like normal people
(Christians) do on Sunday mornings.
However, the EWS is more intended
as a recruitment tool so that ECKists
can invite family, friends, and
colleagues to view how friendly
and "normal" ECKists are. The EWS,
also, serves as "spiritual fellowship"
while giving people the opportunity
to hone their presentation and
facilitating skills. The intros offer
the same opportunity to hone skills.
The discussion classes are a means
to an end and to become more
indoctrinated via guidance through
and family memberships, publications,
ME: It's interesting that there are
so many "Membership Facts" being
omitted. It's an annual membership
donation fee that is required or else
one will not "advance." A membership
card will be issued to you with your
initiation number. A higher number,
such as 7, is supposed to indicate
that the EK member is very advanced
spiritually (on the Inner), but may not
show/demonstrate this in normal
(outer) situations. Usually, however,
ECKists only view other ECKists in
controlled situations where everyone
is on their best behaviour.
BTW- I found this info on:
listed on a FB site:
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