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5909Re: Why Don't ECKists Mention Initiation Wait Time?

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  • Diana Stanley
    Oct 26, 2011
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      we did have to keep up our membership fees to get initiations or go to seminars. It seems to me it was around $20 a year or maybe not!
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      --- In EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com, Austin Atma <austinatma@...> wrote:
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      >
      > It's a bogus system... Initiations.
      >
      > If a person is going to buy into the guru system then this type of initiatory process is at the "high" bogus end. Right next to "load o' crap."
      >
      > How can you figure out the prison guards system of giving out favors to the inmates/prisoners to keep them distracted and happy. Such an effective system of power.
      >
      > On Oct 20, 2011, at 10:48 AM, "dianastanley43" <dianastanley43@...> wrote:
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      > > When I was in Eck we got an intiation every two years. that was in 71
      > > Diana
      > >
      > > --- In EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com, etznab@ wrote:
      > > >
      > > > I've been in Eckankar almost 25 years. My membership has never lapsed.
      > > > My last outer initiation (2000) was the 4th. I don't know if this is
      > > > normal, or the exception.
      > > >
      > > > -----Original Message-----
      > > > From: prometheus_973 <prometheus_973@>
      > > > To: EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous
      > > > <EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com>
      > > > Sent: Wed, Oct 19, 2011 9:36 pm
      > > > Subject: [EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous] Why Don't ECKists Mention
      > > > Initiation Wait Time?
      > > >
      > > > Â
      > > > Here're some comments from
      > > > a H.I. who joined in 1972. I don't
      > > > know if he copied it from a brochure
      > > > or if it's his own original words...
      > > > you decide:
      > > >
      > > > "Eckankar: An individual's spiritual
      > > > path emphasizing Soul's own
      > > > natural and direct inner connections
      > > > to the twin aspects of Holy Spirit
      > > > (aka the Eck), the Inner Light and
      > > > Inner Sound of God. These are
      > > > the twin aspects of Spirit each
      > > > of us, as Soul, are innately connected
      > > > to, know it or not. There is an
      > > > inner guide/teacher who works
      > > > with us on the outer, via books,
      > > > seminars, etc., as well as individually
      > > > on the inner via dreams and
      > > > conscious Soul Travel experiences.
      > > >
      > > > You explore your past lives and
      > > > the karmic situations you've created,
      > > > learning how to resolve past debts
      > > > and live in harmony with Spirit,
      > > > thus creating no new karma. Zero
      > > > karma means you graduate from
      > > > reincarnations to existing in the
      > > > true (karmaless) spiritual realms.
      > > >
      > > > As Soul, you are already "hard-wired"
      > > > to do this; explore your spiritual
      > > > realms and how all that relates
      > > > directly to you this lifetime.
      > > >
      > > > Apparently God doesn't want us
      > > > to remain unknowing and "in the
      > > > dark" forever.
      > > >
      > > > It's true, it's exciting, and it works.
      > > > Truly Amazing."
      > > >
      > > > ME: I wonder why he didn't mention
      > > > the "inner guide/teacher" by name
      > > > or title like Klemp or Mahanta? Is he
      > > > embarrassed or simply being intentionally
      > > > evasive and vague?
      > > >
      > > > BTW- In Eckankar, the "true (karmaless)
      > > > spiritual realms" are found after the 5th
      > > > initiation on the 5th Plane. But, initiations
      > > > are delved out and controlled, now, by
      > > > Klemp's guidelines via the RESA police.
      > > > The standard time to receive a 5th is 15
      > > > years for professionals and 18 plus years
      > > > for average ECKists!
      > > >
      > > > Prometheus
      > > >
      > >
      > >
      >
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