5736Questions for the Master... Jan/2011 (#3)
- Mar 6 1:22 PMQ: "What are the spiritual consequences
of Masturbation? Are there any?" What
technique would you suggest?
ME: Just kidding on that 3rd question?
I was just trying to maintain the EK
superstition/illusion of The Principles
HK: "Dear Wondering,
THERE ARE NO SPIRITUAL CONSEQUENCES
TO THE PRACTICE."
ME: I was pretty sure Klemp would say that.
But, doesn't masturbation require a certain
amount of lust? And, isn't Lust "bad" and
prevents one's spiritual evolution?
HK: "This stament may shock a few;
however, we are not Puritans.
Masturbation is a private matter and is
an individual's business alone, so no guilt
need be connected with it."
ME: So, since it's a "private matter" and
"an individual's business alone" I guess
that means that EK circle jerks are out?
HK: "It is a natural function. Masturbation
avoids the risk of Venereal Diseases and
may well forestall sexual unions and unwanted
pregnancies. The latter may lead to calamitous
outcomes. Lives are often ruined."
ME: I thought choices were "tests?" How are
lives "ruined" by a girl getting pregnant and
having responsibilities and a baby to love?
Anyway, I wonder, is it okay for people to use
unnatural devises to enhance the Masturbation
process? What do the Klemp's use?
Plus, one still has to be careful and use proper
hygiene. I'm surprised Harry didn't cover that
as well. I can see Klemp's POV on "forestalling
sexual unions" since Klemp was always sexually
retarded via his arrested social development.
He probably still thought girls had "cooties"
at age 19! LOL!
HK: "So there is no shame in regard to
ME: Still, one would think that there would
be some Shame and Guilt for ECKists. Is
this another EK Paradox?
Having Sex, either with yourself or with
someone else, requires Lust. Does Harry
still Lust after Joan or does he visualize
someone else to Lust after while he Masturbates?
Lust, according to ECKankar, is a Negative
Passion of the Mind and this will prevent
spiritual growth and the development
of a higher consciousness. It makes one
wonder why a "Spiritual Master" is not
promoting Chastity of both Body and Mind.
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