5439Re: revelations about ego in ECKankar
- Nov 19, 2010Hello All,
I enjoyed reading the comments and insights.
It is said that ego must be used when teaching,
but ego is always being used for multiple purposes
in life and in ECKankar. We have thoughts and
opinions and these are used to make decisions.
Thus, there is no actual detachment of the ego
because we hold onto our opinions because it
is part of our history and what makes us unique.
That's another thing. Many ECKists tend to become,
act, or turn off their feelings in order to hide their
It is taught that to have feelings is "Astral"
(bad) because it shows "attachment" to the
lower plane traps that, supposedly, bind Soul
to the Wheel of 84 (karma). Except, Higher
Initiates no longer have Karma... they are free...
but not from Klemp or that Annual Membership
Renewal. There are always strings attached to
anything "given" by Klemp. Btw-What is it that
Klemp gives? He takes and takes and takes, he
likes to have it both ways, and he can never have
his teachings (opinions) questioned and have his
"authority" questioned. But, Klemp will say that
he's "not perfect" while defining himself (the
LEM/Mahanta) as being perfect. That's another
flawed concept that ECKists don't notice. As the
LEM (a 12th Initiate and ECK Master) HK should
be perfect on the "Outer" almost as much as the
14th Initiate Mahanta is on the "Inner." HK should
not be hampered by the Physical Plane since,
apparently, Rebazar isn't! Btw- Where is R.T.?
Also, Klemp teaches that it's good to use a lower
Astral Chakra (below the Third Eye) which is
referred to as the "Heart Center." This is why
having "love" (feelings), i.e. attachments, to
"innocent" animals seems to be more acceptable
over human love. One unspoken EK tradition
is the jumping from one bed or spouse to another.
It's seen as okay as long as the jilted one is not
connected to the EK sisterhood. This search for
a new Soulmate (twin) is even encouraged, to
a degree, because this is seen, in ECKankar,
as taking care of unfinished karma... which is
good! Anyway, Klemp's lovey dovey "Heart Center"
propaganda seems to be taking ECKists in the
opposite direction and down rather than up!
Plus, I never did like it that Klemp still promoted
the 6th Astral Chakra, the Tisra Til or Third Eye,
when HUing. Why not the highest Astral Plane
Chakra... the "Crown" Chakra? Just this fact alone
caused me to doubt Klemp's abilities and "higher
consciousness" or "spirituality."
Getting back to what Avonblue said about H.I.s
(writers, speakers, and RESAs) placing themselves
above others with their holier than thou attitudes,
etc. I knew this one RESA that would use mind
tricks on her chelas. She would look at them and
attempt to read their minds. It was funny to watch
as she intimidated them with her looks by staring
through them. Of course, once I caught on to what
she was doing I did the same thing back to her
and it rattled her because she felt blocked. There
wasn't anything to the mind reading, of course,
but my body language and facial expression (back
at her) simply showed her that I wasn't buying into
it and this puzzled and confused her. She wasn't
in control after all. I doubt that she knew that I
had figured out what she was doing. Actually, I
noticed other "heavy hitters" doing similar things
There was one former RESA, and speaker, who
would control the situation by withholding affection
and this affected certain people. She was always
friendly towards me and gave me hugs and kisses
while some of my friends were snubbed and one
complained to me about it! The only thing I can
figure is that my one friend, who was snubbed,
was a very attractive female and this might have
been a territorial thing. LOL!
Anyway, it was amusing to watch some of these
"chosen ones." I learned a lot! I think the RESA
powers really changed people. Millie, Helen, Elmo,
and many other old-timers were really nice and
genuine people who weren't afraid to speak their
minds on a myriad of subjects rather than the
confines of what Klemp wanted them to promote.
After all, what was HK going to do to them that
wouldn't have some repercussions! This is why
Ford should have stayed inside ECKankar and
spoke his mind.
It seems the longer I'm away from eckankar the more clear the deception
becomes. While most eckists would strongly disagree with me, I feel the guise
of the ego-less path and service to others is a bit of a crock. I wondered what
others thought about this.
For instance, initiations were not talked about in detail by eckists (it's an
eck sin) but their presence was always just below the surface. Not true of all
but generally the higher the initiation the more self-righteous the individual
seemed to become. I'd use the word smug - nothing overt, just a subtle "I'm
better than you" attitude. This was exacerbated in discussion and satsang when
listening to someone talking about their latest "experience" and how directly or
indirectly they we're saying how they understood life but the other was simple
bumbling through unaware. Not to say this was a conscious belligerent attitude
but more of a subliminal air - very soft undertones.
"Experiences" especially related to seminar talks are interesting as well.
First, eck has developed an elitist list of Super Eckists - invited to speak or
perform time after time. This is true on the national as well as regional
level. It's a personality thing - eckists "worshipping" these people and trying
to be seen in their company as well as trying to emulate them. On all levels
there is an underlying attempt to compare and out do another's experience.
Exaggeration (I'll be kind) in storytelling is rampant.
When the "entertainer" Darwin was the LEM, he subtly promoted music as the way
to God. This became huge on the regional level - a literal eckky talent show of
mediocre musicians - all trying to prove their god worthiness. Then HK the
editor brought writing to the forefront - same thing - let's emulate writer's.
Most of these "creative artists" could never make it in the real world - they
live by the adoration of their small circle of admirers. And talk about egos!
I always felt an underlying competition in eckankar on so many levels.
Freeing myself from this dysfunctional group was the most rewarding "experience"
I've had to date!
I agree with every point you make, and I'd like to add the following:
Ekult works by telling its followers how the lower worlds work, ie that which is
visualized is made manifest. At the same time, it uses this same tool to make
ITSELF manifest! In addition, the 'service' aspect in ekult is equally
important, it's another tool to harness the energies of its followers to further
In ekult a 'BAH'hanta humbug figure was created in 1969 and is only kept
manifest to this day by HK constantly pleading, think of me always, focus on
moi, moi, moi... and have my picture everywhere!
This technique has been used by religions and despots alike, whether ancient or
modern, from the Mayans to Hitler to Ekult. The poeple are told by those, set
apart as leaders, what to think, how to think and what to visualize! Thus ANY
concept that the people are encouraged to accept and focus upon, is made
manifest! Scary stuff!
I guarantee, if all current ekult followers removed their attention from ekult
en masse in the morning, henceforth, it and all its aspects would cease to
exist. Ekult, from start to finish is simply psychism!
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