5431Re: "I Am Always With You" - The Real Meaning
- Nov 3, 2010Hello Etznab,
I agree with you. The reason I approached
the ECK version of "I Am Always With You"
from this other perspective of Soul, and
in regard to dead loved ones, is that I saw
a very highly respected ECKist use it both
ways. She spouts the Mahanta crap and
then applies the same I Am Always You
to her dead loved ones being Always With
her and her with them.
With ECKists this concept of "I Am Always
With You" probably applies to pets as well.
Perhaps the dead pets are now seen as being
"animal angels." Actually, in ECKankar, there's
more focus and books written about "Animal
Angels" than on human angels (Soul)! Why's
that? Probably because Human Angels versus
Animal Angels would give some competition
to Klemp and to the ECK Master myths. This
is why the topic of (human/people) Angels
is avoided by ECKists. In EK any human angel
becomes a mysterious minor being or an
ECK Master... never anything in-between
or as a loved one who has passed. Only Klemp
(the Mahanta) is permitted to "watch over"
or to "assist" the living, except, he doesn't!
The purpose of a Living Master is to have
more and better control over the faithful.
Otherwise, there would be a schism and
various clerics/masters would become leaders
based upon their ability to communicate
and decipher/interpret their holy scriptures.
Living Masters can interpret scripture any
way they want and twist it to fit their agendas.
They are no other authorities over them,
although, there are others that could do
a better job and are more spiritual.
Masters/Prophets are usually the ones
who first led/taught people a specific
dogma. The religion was created during
this time frame or later by their followers.
Thus, Twitchell was the Moses, Abraham
and Mohammad of ECKankar. Klemp is
simply a caretaker, like the Pope, posing
as a Master/Mahanta.
The guru always with you paradigm, I believe that was
old hat during the time of Julian Johnson in the 1930s.
In other words, what surfaced in Eckankar dogma as
"I am always with you" was not a novel creation. IMO.
The way Julian Johnson wrote in his book The Path of
the Masters, it was my impression that he idolized the
"living master" paradigm. And if it's true what was said
about Paul Twitchell writing his guru Kirpal Singh for a
number of years, I believe Paul was keen on promoting
the importance of a living master ("guru") as well.
I've often tried to discover where the idolization of one
single master at a time (as representative God) arose
in human history. It probably goes back to Jesus and
even before that.
The purpose for a living master, as I understand it, is
for having a way to update the spiritual teachings. Yet
common sense tells me that every single individual is
at liberty to update spiritual teachings as well, with the
truth! Appointing one person as top dog, however, and
one who's word trump's that of all others would only be
nice if that person was truly enlightened more than all
other persons. If they are not, however, and if they go
about adding fictions & pseudo religion / history to the
spiritual teachings, it can cause a serious problem, in
my opinion. Especially if the fictions and pseudo man-
made religion / history are propagated as literal truth.
Why would a master / guru do that? I can surmise it
basically says that human consciousness is limited
and most gurus / masters are simply playing the part
of God. LIke as if there were a costume children could
go dress on Halloween as. But most masters look and
are as human as anybody else and there is no special
costume. The "costumes" are the "titles", IMO, that
other people associate as the designations of spiritual
hierarchy. Popes, Bishops, Priests, Pastors, Masters
and Gurus's etc. Putting "The" in front of the title Living
Master gives people the sense of "there can be only
one", IMO. Deriving credibility via guru lineage for the
living guru, after using fictional characters to animate
such lineage is unpardonable, IMO. It's not only with
the Eckankar dogma, but other paths have fabricated
their own lineages just as well. Including additions of
pseudo man-made religion / history. It's a "red flag" to
discover such things about one's own religious organ-
ization. Even more difficult is having to rationalize why
it's OK for masters and clergy to not come clean with
the truth. What are they thinking?
ECKists have replaced one "God" for another.
Sure, they call "Him" by a different name but
in essence it's merely a revised substitution.
In ECKankar the members see themselves
"as" Soul versus having "a" Soul. There's
no separate identity between human and
divine. According to ECKankar, you (we)
are Soul and are a part of the Divine, but
are living in a physical shell (body). And,
there are other "bodies" that also "protect"
Soul from the coarse "vibrations" of the
"Lower" Planes. Therefore, everyone's true
identity is that of Being... a Divine Soul.
It just "IS." Personally, I think that much
of this needed "protection" for Soul is B.S.,
and Soul is not affected by "lower" vibrations.
It's a myth!
Klemp likes to say, "I Am Always With You"
when he signs off.
But what does this really mean? Eckists seem
to have an identity crisis since they are constantly
being separated from their identity as Soul
via Klemp's dogma involving his rank above
them and all other Souls.
Soul is a Divine part of the "ECK" as is the
Mahanta... there is actually no difference.
And, according to EK Teachings Soul equals
Soul. This means that Klemp is No Higher or
more valued than any other Soul. But, is this
the case? Not quite. With Klemp it's an Ego
thing and he needs to be the Top Dog on both
the outer and inner. Twitchell started this myth.
In reality, on the "inner," HK's equal to all
other Souls, and he hates this truth. This isn't
the reality with how PT created the ECK teachings
and how they are practiced. Being a LEM/Mahanta
is a flawed concept because Twitchell needed
to be the Top Dog as Klemp does. Basically, it's
a Bait and Switch!
All Souls are Always With one another. Right?
I really don't buy the "plane" thing with the
numbers and the judgment and the homework
and the tests and of separating Soul in classes
like wheat from the chaff etc. It doesn't make
sense in this day and age. When EKies speak
about "the Sugmad Worlds," or whatever, why
do they accept old hearsay versions from invisible/
living Masters who are hundreds and thousands
of years old. It's immature mental plane fantasy!
Each Soul is as much of the "I AM" as any other
Soul. In actuality, there are No initiations and
rankings in the God Worlds. Really, how can it
be? Initiations can't exist and neither can gender!
If anything, there should only be 4 initiations.
Therefore there are no male or female ECK Masters
nor images i.e. drawings/photos. Every Soul
is a Master. Its human counterpart needs
to recognize this and and live it.
BTW, Women are the equals of Men and should
be treated as such, and Soul is the equal to
every other Soul and should be treated as such.
Limitations are both recognized and created
by the finite mind for/by itself, naturally. Even
the imagination has limitations. It's really too
bad when I hear and see longtime H.I.s parrot
the, "I Am Always With You" idiom. They must
be tired of thinking and, therefore, just repeat
the old words and phrases that have stuck in
Sure, it's kind of touchy and feely and sounds
like a mystical and/or religious promise of
sorts. I guess it's supposed to reenforce hope
and the belief that the "Mahanta" (God) is always
there standing in the wings and looking after
you. It doesn't happen of course but it feels
good to think that someone cares and has your
back just in case the worst happens (as it
eventually will). Those imaginative EK heavens
are awaiting and that feels good. That's why
religions work so well and are so popular with
people. But, that's part of the problem too.
BTW, why aren't H.I.s "Always With You?"
According to Klemp in his "Autobiography"
(pg. 385) "God" is of the 4th Mental Plane
but does all kinds of Miracles, etc. H.I.s are
"Higher" than this "God" so why can't these
H.I.s "Always Be With You" or "With" one
another? A lie is not a paradox! ECK "stories"
are mental plane experiences coming from
this same 4th plane "God" (Kal) source.
Soul equals Soul means that we are all the
same and, yet, unique. Klemp has stolen
Soul's equality, identity, and uniqueness
and ECKists haven't noticed. I pity them
with their delusions, but then again, I can
understand why many have found solace
in religion and on running on auto pilot.
I just can't understand why those H.I.s
who appear to have more going for them,
or seem to be stronger and more astute
continue to play Klemp's game and live
their lives under his shadow with so many
"spiritual" restraints and delusions. Maybe
for many of those working at the ESC it's
simply job security to play the game.
That's what Klemp did with Darwin.
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