5Re: Eck Spiritual Skills Seminar, etc.
- Mar 9, 2005Hello Prometheus,
> I see that there is an extention to sign-up for this March 24-27I cannot understand why those seminars are held in one place only
> seminar and that there will even be workshops at the new Eck
> Spiritual Center... whoopee! The extention must mean that not as
> many people are signing up as they had hoped. Even late March in
> Minnesota can produce nasty weather. So why not choose Florida
> instead! Too bad Harold isn't more sensitive to his followers.
from this year on! I guess it's because Harold doesn't want to
travel. :-)) OK, the place in Chanhassen is nice, and while I still
was an Eckist, I liked the temple very much and had a coming-home
feeling. But I don't think I would like to travel there every year!
It's not that nice ... :-))
> I think back to all of the money I spent on travel, hotels, andfood
> at these seminars and it amazes me how much money people spendgoing
> to these redundant events. However, it was nice to see old friendsIt's amazing for sure. It depends on the priorities you have. My
> and do some sight-seeing (of sorts).
husband and me sometimes went to such a seminar, but not too often.
You just have to decide what you want. We didn't always want to have
a seminar, though! :-) But sometimes we decided to attend one and
then we liked it. But I know eckists who travel to Minneapolis every
year. They don't have much money so they travel by car from Québec
every year. It's exhausting for sure, and their health is not the
best. But they want to do it, so they do it - each and every year. It
always amazed me because I think there are for sure things you can do
at home that are as spiritual as going to the worldwide?? :-)
> I threw awayWe threw away all of our books and pictures and things, too! And
> hundreds of dollars worth of books, discourses, pocket posters,
> brochures, HU cards, etc. when I left one year ago. My wife and we
> probably spent at least $30,000 in just attending seminars and
> $3,000 on study materials and vahana stuff. This of course doesn't
> cover the yearly donation which probably over the years totaled to
> around $15,000 at least!
there are still things turning up from dark corners from time to
time! The last book I have is the leadership handbook for initiates 2-
4. I will give that to a new eckist who needs to read it for final
decision whether she shall stay or not. Before giving it away, I read
it through. It's quite clear to me that the goal has been since a
very long time ... recruiting new members. That's why this training
was set up. It's good that I didn't get around to finish it because
after 2 sessions I started to read Ford Johnson's book and then my
husband and I left! :-)
> Anyway, if anyone wants to vent some anger or frustration for theand
> years of deception and share some information or insights please
> feel free to do so. I'm amazed at the new clarity of mind and
> freedom I now feel from having left Eckankar. I still have some Eck
> books and even have an Eckist friend fax me her Mystic World and
> sometimes her H.I. Letter when I ask. When I re-read these books
> look at Paul Twitchell's or Harold's words with more clarity andYes the mind gets very clear, doesn't it? It's so good! And it's
> scrutiny I can now see the truth behind their deceptions.
true, too, that when you read those books with your "new" eyes, the
deceptions are quite obvious. The problem is that there's truth in
the teaching, but it's somehow distorted and twisted - it's truth,
and then it's not truth. That's quite confusing.
Thanks for the site!
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