4902Re: HI books
- Sep 10, 2009Hello Moby,
I'll try to answer your H.I. questions
Prometheus, I was looking through
an eckankar catalogue that a friend
Why are there some books that are
only for HI's?
P- The H.I. Only Books are used
in two ways. One way is to create
a separation between H.I.s & Chelas
and to instill mystery and a desire
to become an H.I. to expand one's
consciousness. It's another carrot
being dangled. The other reason
is to have books that address leadership
issues and concerns while encouraging
H.I.s to hang in there even though
Klemp slowed those initiations
down long ago. Thus, positions
and titles have become more important
and powerful than higher initiation
Why can't others order them?
P- Well, one could have an H.I. friend
order the H.I. Only Books in their name
for you, or share their library of H.I.
books with you, especially, if you
happen to be a 4th (almost a H.I.).
Or, if one is married to or dating a
H.I. one could probably read those.
What is so secret?
P- The business side of Eckankar!
It's like reading the chela page of
the local EK newsletter versus the
Actually, from what I've read Klemp
will sometimes say more outrageous
things in the Mystic World or the
Letter of Light. Remember Klemp's
instructions to H.I.s Only in the
12/2005 H.I. Letter where he said
Not to use "if, and, but" with other
H.I.s and then uses BUT (the worst
of the three) in following EK pubs.
Have you ever seen any of the HI books?
P- I used to have all of them until
I quit by letting my membership lapse.
I, then, threw all my H.I. Books away.
The H.I. Leadership Book and Workbook
were interesting in that Klemp stuck
his foot in his mouth all through
the book. He tried to get bad (H.I.)
behaviour under control by telling
H.I.s to rat on others to the RESA.
Of course, many times, the RESA
was part of the problem since they
couldn't or didn't want to control their
H.I.s, or it was the crazy (Nazi) RESA
causing the problems. In that case
one could contact the ESC... but
whose side or word do you think
HK will take? Klemp was about 15
years too late with that book because
the damage had been done. We tried
to tell him and begged, years earlier,
that he write this book. However,
most of the time many RESAs do
what they want anyway and turn a
blind-eye to much of what is happening
behind their backs and the ESC's.
Klemp, usually, never finds out when
his guidelines aren't being followed
since each RESA's area is run differently
and reports to the ESC can be less
than honest and absent of details.
Many reports tend to omit quite
a lot of info that the ESC would
like to track. Intro numbers (attendance)
are fudged, and Satsang attendance
records are overlooked. It used to be
that one was kicked out of the class
if they missed three classes! Now, the
Arahata is happy if anyone shows up...
and extra happy if they have read
the lesson... and ecstatic if they
actually brought the (correct)
discourse lesson with them!
Also, how are RESA's chosen?
P- By Klemp. The RESA Hierarchy
started in 1985-87... I forget
exactly. Some of those first ones
are still in power as the RESA of
that state/country. Bob Lawton
is one of these first RESAs. After
that the new RESAs are usually
recommended to Klemp by the
one stepping down. They are
asked to make a three year
commitment, although, their
position is reviewed yearly as
are the EK Board members at
the ESC and locally. Klemp has
the power to hire and fire anyone,
anywhere, at anytime without
Board permission. The RESA
can do the same and peck those
Does harold have to choose them
P- He usually does, but everyone
has a file on them at the ESC.
Thus, he'll have his staff ask around
about people, read their file, and
take to heart the recommendation
of the RESA stepping aside. He'll
also interview them, ahead of time,
if he can.
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