4712Re: [EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous] Re: Klemp: Aryans Are From JUPITER!
- Jun 13, 2009Prometheus,
I wasn't aware that Patti S. resigned. Instead, I
had the impression she was removed. Here is why:
"Another interesting development in the August
7 meeting was the appointment, by resolution,
of Patricia Simpson Rivinus [married in 1983],
Paul Twitchell's secretary, as the new secretary
of Eckankar. Only one day later, she was, by
resolution, summarily removed from this position
and told that
... her services as an officer are hereby terminated,
both such removal and termination being effective imm-
"Joan Cross (later Harold's wife) was
... appointed as Secretary of Eckankar, effective
immediately, to serve the unexpired portion of the
current term of Secretary."
[See: Ford Johnson, Confessions of a God Seeker,
A Journey to Higher Consciousness, p. 233-234]
From: prometheus_973 <prometheus_973@...>
Sent: Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:56 pm
Subject: [EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous] Re: Klemp: Aryans Are From
I figured Patti had left EKankar since
she resigned as Secretary to the ECKankar
Board the day after Klemp & his new Board
went after Darwin. Joan was voted to take
Patti's position as Secretary, immediately,
the same day as the resignation. Apparently
Joan took lessons from Harry on how to stand
in the win
gs, and await, until opportunity
comes a knocking.
I've often wondered about Gail & Patti -
ever since I started researching & posting
as far back as The TruthSeeker B.B. Was
it 2005-2007? I think it was some time
It's a big question mark, to me, about
whatever happened to Gail's involvement
with Eckankar. Why the apparent silence
for so many years? However, I don't think
Patti has been so silent. I don't think it a
mystery anymore, either, whether or not
she is a member of Eckankar. At least, I
believe it was alluded to by Doug M. that
she was not any longer active. Instead of
going into the details about this, my recoll-
ection is that Doug wanted to let Patti tell
the story in her own time, in her own way.
About how many books Paul Twitchell
finished before 1966, I think I see your
At one time Twitchell was a high ranking
member of Scientology. It seems L. Ron
was his original source of "compiled" info
on Jupiter. Thus, this now becomes Klemp's
handed-down source since he tends to use
other people (usually dead) as inspiration
for his "EK wisdom."
As far as Marman goes... he speculates...
a lot... and then calls it the Whole Truth! LOL!
Plus, according to Twitchell, it was GAIL who
inspired him to take his piles of "research"
and do something with it. Wasn't it 1963
when PT met, GAIL, his coconspirator! I blame
GAIL for the fraud more than Twitchell! She's
had all of these years to right a wrong, but she's
kept silent. The sin of omission! She, too, must
be a narcissist! GAIL has rationalized her role
by thinking she'd helped people who were
desperate to believe in something more than
what they had with their former orthodox
religions. Except, Scientology, etc., etc., and
other cult-like religions can say and do the
same. Therefore, Gail is more the KAL agent
than Paul. Yet, she and Patti seem to be Marman's
new buds. Gail should do the right thing and
jerk the rug out from under Klemp. Gail could
even come on this site (ESA) Anonymously and
post some tidbits about Twit, Gross, Klemp, or
Ginn, or Skelsky, etc. She really does need to
clear her conscience and protect those Souls
whom she helped to delude.
BTW, on another note, didn't Marman say
that Kirpal didn't return the Tiger's Fang
manuscript to Twit until around June, 1966.
Thus, the only book PT had completely compiled/
written, and printed, prior to 1965 was, maybe,
a book of poetry?
About life on Jupiter, I wondered where Paul
Twitchell got that idea? Was it from an actual
experience? or something he heard / read?
For some reason I thought about Scientology.
I then searched for keywords Scientology &
ESKIMOS ON JUPITER
L. Ron Hubbard described Scientology as the science
of "knowing how to know". The idea is that "auditing"
can raise your abilities to the point where you "know"
something directly rather than having to discover it
or learn it. He spoke authoritatively about life in the
solar system. He claimed that Jupiter was inhabited
by people who looked like Eskimos. You can hear him
say it at:
I'd bet that Paul Twitchell was not the only person, and
certainly not the first, to write of life on other planets. I
believe Twitchell and Hubbard were
both science fiction
writers for a time.
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