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4703Klemp: Aryans Are From JUPITER!

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  • prometheus_973
    Jun 6, 2009
      Hello All,
      I thought I'd bring this back for
      another laugh. Are ECK Vahanas
      Ever to mention the Jupiter and
      Venus connection with the EK
      Masters when speaking to seekers?
      Of course Not! Are EK Vahanas
      ever to mention the lifetime "service"
      requirement to new seekers? No,
      again! I wonder, why Not? Too
      much Truth... they'd get spiritual

      - Aryans Are From JUPITER! -

      Harold Klemp (LEM/Mahanta)
      "The Wisdom Notes" SPRING
      1984 writes:

      "... the MAHANTA, the Living ECK Master,
      The world is never without him, for the line
      ARYAN PEOPLE were placed here by colonists
      from JUPITER."

      Yes! Eckankar has more space Gods
      (i.e.ECK Masters) than they want to admit!
      Gakko and Rami Nuri are from VENUS!

      Dap Ren (Darwin Gross) was from
      Clarion! Klemp even has this planet
      mentioned in his EK Lexicon--

      "CLARION. A planet where higher
      evolved Souls are living to help carry
      on the work of GOD throughout the

      Etznab wrote:

      More "space-people" & Eckankar trivia.

      "Eckankar was brought here from Venus
      by a little known race which is living in
      Agam Des, and whom we know as the
      Eshwar Khanewale [last two words
      in italics], or simply as the God-eaters.
      These beings are members of the Ancient
      Brotherhood, or Order, of the Vairagi.
      They attained their name, the god-eaters,
      from the fact that they absorb cosmic
      energies instead of assimilating plants
      and other foods." [my brackets]

      Based on: Herbs The Magic Healers,
      Copyright 1971, 2nd printing 1987,
      p. 100 (3rd paragraph) Paul Twitchell


      prometheus wrote:
      Klemp is a scammer and his followers
      are gullible New Age wannabes!
      How can rational and intelligent people
      believe in this crap! Most ECKists came
      from orthodox religions that taught
      similar fiction and myth. And, these
      Old Orthodox religions, as well as, the
      New Age ones have complex dogmas
      and glowing "spiritual" testimonials
      of miracles, visitations by angels and/or
      Masters, etc. just as Eckankar does!
      All religions rely upon the current
      LEADER's ability to control and manipulate
      the imaginations of his believers!
      I'm still wondering how Klemp can say
      that the Aryan Root Race was "PLACED
      HERE [earth] BY COLONISTS from JUPITER"
      when in the Shariyat 1, CH 3 it states:

      "The floor of Heaven opened; and ALL
      Souls went TUMBLING DOWNWARD
      through the worlds, through the Planes
      and Regions of light, darkness, the sounds
      of the wild winds, the Universes and Heavens.
      At last, Each came to rest upon the worlds
      of matter--some of the newly formed
      planets of VENUS, SATURN, JUPITER, and
      THOSE NAMED BY MAN from this little
      world of EARTH.

      Many CAME to the EARTH planet and
      formed the consciousness of man in
      the flesh temple of the human body,
      to wear the cloth of misery and unhappiness,
      and take up the burdens of karma until
      at last, one day, each would be ready
      to return to the heavenly home." [end]

      I don't see how Klemp "got it" that the
      5th ARYAN ROOT RACE came before the
      1st POLARIAN ROOT RACE and, especially,
      that man was "placed here by colonists
      from JUPITER." This is another dirty little
      secret that EK VAHANAS can't speak of!
      Another dirty little secret is that ECKists
      are expected to "serve."
      Here's an interesting definition from
      Klemp's Eckankar Lexicon (pg. 162):
      which lived in POLARA, the GARDEN
      of EDEN; the ADAMIC RACE; ADOM
      was the FIRST MAN and EDE, the
      the RACES OF MAN upon EARTH."
      It's true that Twitchell was a professional
      liar and plagiarist, but Klemp is too! Twit
      stole the words and ideas of others without
      giving them credit. Klemp steals the stories
      of spiritual experiences from chelas written
      in Initiate Reports and letters in order to
      use these as "inspiration" for his books that
      he receives 50% royalties on!
      Paul Twitchell himself seems to have messed up
      when mentioning the Arayans too. Unless someone
      mistranslated it to begin with.
      "[....] The destruction of the kingdom of Lemuria and
      all its colonial empire came about by gas pockets under
      the crust of the earth some hundreds of thousands of
      years ago. It was a land of the Aryans who spread the
      empire throughout the world. [....]"
      [Based on: Paul Twitchell, The Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad,
      Book Two, seventh printing, 1982, p. 97 & eighth printing,
      1986, p. 97 ]
      "[....] The destruction of the kingdom of Lemuria and all
      its colonial empire came about by gas pockets under the
      crust of the earth that formed some hundreds of thousands
      of years ago. [....]"
      [Based on: Paul Twitchell, The Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad,
      Book Two, Second Edition - 1988, p. 112]
      It looks like someone got rid of that reference
      to Aryans in the Satya Yuga. And it only took
      until 1988!

      prometheus wrote:
      > >
      Harold Klemp (LEM/Mahanta)
      "The Wisdom Notes" SPRING 1984:
      > >
      "... the MAHANTA, the Living ECK Master.
      The world is never without him, for the line
      ARYAN PEOPLE were placed here by colonists
      from JUPITER."
      > >
      > >
      When one looks at the definition for "ARYAN,"
      in Klemp's EK LexiCON, he states that this is
      the FIFTH and Current ROOT RACE!
      > >
      People in this Current ROOT RACE, according
      to Klemp, "were placed here by colonists from
      > >
      Where are the other RACES from?
      > >
      Is this JUPITER thing mentioned in any ECK Brochure?
      I don't think sooooo!!!
      > >
      What planets were the other "Previous" ROOT RACES
      > >
      Was "Atlantis" a place in another Galaxy Far
      Far Away? That sounds like the makings for
      another Klemp story! Yawn!
      > >
      Really! Do ECKists remember this comment that
      Klemp made as a newer member of the Vairagi
      Order in the Spring of 1984? I never did! It was
      covered up and never mentioned again wasn't it!
      > >
      This is how the "Law of Silence" or "take your
      question to the inner" works in Eckankar!
      > >
      > >
      P.S. Am I missing something? Were both or
      just the "colonists" from JUPITER? Were the
      Aryans being "placed here" (earth) from Jupiter
      too, or were they from somewhere else? Did
      we Aryans come from test tubes, or were we
      aliens from Clarion and enslaved by the Jupiterians?
      > >
      Shouldn't the Highest Consciousness in All
      the Universes (Klemp) have access to more
      of this info in order to give some clarity (excuse)
      for his contradictions of information? Or, does
      Klemp have his head in the clouds (or sand)
      and is more focused upon those Souls residing
      on the Inner Planes? LOL!
      > >
      I must admit the JUPITER thing does sound
      sort of fictional (like Star Wars or Battlefield
      Earth). Lies do build upon one another! Could
      it be that Klemp, early on, was influenced
      by L. Ron Hubbard as much as Twitchell was!
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