4250The HI Newsetter - December 2008 - Photo of Klemp at Eck centers
- Jan 8, 2009After thinking about this a little more, it occurred to me that the
photo of Harold in the group photos of Eckists indicates to me both
(1) a worship of Harold Klemp, and (2) that Harold Klemp has a big
I'd like to point out one more interesting thing that I have noticed
over my many years as a member of Eckankar. In my eary days in
Eckankar, in the main room in the Eck center, at the front of the
room, there was a small table or stand. It had some fake or real
flowers on it, plus a fairly small photo of the Eck master, say an 8
by 10 inch color photo. Now (2008) and for about the past 7 years at
least, there is a huge color photo high up on the wall in the main
room in the Eck center. I would say the photo is about 14 by 17.5
inches in size.
I see these photos of Harold Klemp, especially the huge photos, as a
type of "worship of the Eck master by photo." And it seems that over
the years Eckankar headquarters has been encouraging this type of
worship of Klemp more and more. I can't say that it is being done
more often, but the photos are being made larger. Also, putting the
huge photo of Klemp high on the wall tends to put every person in the
room in a subserviant position to the photo/Klemp.
--- In EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com, "jonathanjohns96"
> I wrote the following commentary seven days before I risigned from
> Eckankar on December 17, 2008:
> Two days ago I received both Eckankar publications in the mail.
> First comment - Worship of Harold Klemp
> The HI Newsletter, December, 2008
> There is an article on front page about the Prodigal Son. At the
> the article Harold writes:Spiritual
> "Examine yourself time and again. Are you keeping up with the
> Exercises of ECK? Are you doing them with love? Do you love theMahanta
> with all your heart?"what
> It's the last sentence that bothers me. Eckankar claims that worship
> and adulation of the Eck master are discouraged in Eckankar. Then
> is this last sentence:himself.
> "Do you love the Mahanta with all your heart?"
> It certainly sounds to me that Harold is promoting worship of
> I have no problem with Eckists loving Harold Klemp if they choose
> that. But it is wrong for Harold to (1) tell them that they must,or (2)
> as in the case of this HI Newsletter, use their degree of love forhim
> as some kind of spiritual test.the
> Second comment - Harold Klemp's huge ego
> The Mystic World and The HI Newsletter, December, 2008
> The article on the back page which in every Mystic World is called
> "Wisdom Notes" is all about how having a big ego can hold us back. Iproblem.
> have no problem with the basic message of the article. It's a good
> message, but I disagree with Harold's conclusions as to whether his
> chelas have an ego problem or Harold Klemp himself has an ego
> Let's take a look at the photos in the two December publications. On
> page 4 of the Mystic World (the publication for all Eckists) there
> photo of five Eckists; one is holding a medium-sized photo ofHarold.
> In The HI Newsletter (the pub reserved for higher initiates in
> there is:the
> Page 3 - A photo of about 33 Eckists with a person in the middle of
> front row holding a medium-sized photo of Harold.the
> Page 4 - A photo of about 33 Eckists with a person in the middle of
> front row holding a large photo of Harold.the
> Page 5 - A photo of about 65 Eckists with a person in the middle of
> front row holding a very large photo of Harold.of the
> Page 6 - A photo of about 115 Eckists with a person in the middle
> front row holding a very large photo of Harold.all,
> Summary comment
> So my point has to do with both of these first two points. First of
> Harold Klemp requires that all of his chelas love him which seems toall,
> indicate to me that he encourages them to worship him. Second of
> Harold evidently requires that in a photo of groups of Eckists, amedium
> to very large sized photo of himself be broadly displayed by theperson
> in the first row. Even if Harold Klemp didn't start this "photoClearly,
> worship," he is still responisible because he obviously isn't doing
> anything to stop it.
> So who is it in Eckankar that has the biggest ego of anybody?
> it is Harold Klemp himself. Does anybody in Eckankar other thanmyself
> get it?
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