4172Re: [EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous] Re: What now?
- Dec 5, 2008Mish,
I probably shoulda read all the threads for today
first, before responding to Ma-Li. I think if I had read
your response first, I probably would have said much
less myself. It sounded like some good advice to me.
What you shared, Mish.
From: mishmisha9 <mishmisha9@...>
Sent: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 9:16 am
Subject: [EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous] Re: What now?
I like your questions about filling in the empty spaces,
what to do now? Likening it to finishing a 3 hour test in
one hour, reminded me of my college days! Actually, I
remember a few occasions when taking an exam that I
did actually finish quite early . . . and I remember some
self-doubts about why I finished it so quickly while others
were still laboring over the exam. What did I do?? I turned
the exam in and left the room! And then I did sort of a
happy dance outside, glad to be free of that exam room . . .
and how did I do? Well, I did quite well, because I had
aced those exams, and I was free to go on to the next
thing . . . and being a college student, I remember heading
to the beach with some friends for one time and having so
much fun. Can't quite remember on the other occasions, but
if it was just before school break, I probably got an early
start for home! So I guess my message is to trust yourself! : )
Empty spaces are a luxury really, but they often come at a
hard time, so there can be the feeling of loss . . . and we
want to quickly fill it up again with something else. I think
it is good to just take one's time and find things that are of
interest. I remember one time in my life when I had to sort
of re-invent myself. Every morning I'd ask myself what it
was that I wanted and needed to do with my life to make
myself happy. Happiness is so essential--it is not selfish to
want to seek this IMO. My goals had to be reasonable and
attainable goals--that was one stipulation I placed on myself.
I finally defined what it was I wanted and wanted to do and
then I looked for the ways to accomplish it all, one by one.
I guess what I'm saying you have to ask yourself what it is
you need and then find the ways to have it. But take your
time and enjoy the freedom of those empty spaces because
they allow you freedom for introspection which is needed to
take the next steps--all by your own choices and decisions!
Good luck! And I'd like to offer a couple of books for reading
as well. One member of our site who left eckankar after 30
years found Jed McKenna's book "Spiritual Enlightenment, the
Damnest Thing" to greatly help her to handle
the void. She
still says it is the best book! I also like Sam Harris' book "The
End of Faith", and also enjoyed Bill Moyers TV series on "On Faith
and Reason" to be quite valuable. You can google for the Bill
Moyers series to find and read the transcripts.
--- In EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com, Ma-li
>I'm living in the Now all
> Hello Non ekster et al,
> It's not so much that I'm searching for anything, it's more like
the time. However, on another level, I think/feel that I should be
more than just being. Don't know if that makes sense, so I'll liken it
to the student who
finishes a 3 hour test in an hour. What does he do for the other 2
hours...just sit there
quietly, leave the room, or go back over the test yet again? He's in a
quandry, and it
doesn't feel right that he's finished early. Then the doubts and mental
working until he's got himself almost convinced he really screwed up
the test, but he
doesn't want to go back and change answers because he also feels he did
the best he
could. What does he do to fill the empty space?
> --- On Thu, 12/4/08, Non ekster <eckchains@...> wrote:
> From: Non ekster <eckchains@...>
> Subject: [EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous] Re: What now?
> To: EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 12:02 AM
> Sometimes it's best to just stop Searching.
> Non ekster ; )
> --- In EckankarSurvivorsAn onymous@yahoogro ups.com, "mhstarlings"
> <mhstarlings@ ...> wrote:
> > Hello All,
> > I have come to the place where I was in 1973 before I joined
> > Eckankar. The difference is whatI know now, and all the years
> > teachings that have filled those years up to maybe 7 yearsago.
> > Seven years is how long it's been since I felt "right" aboutanswers,
> > remaining in Eckankar, and it's taken me this long to find
> > and to make the decision to sever my ties with it.you
> > Would anyone like to share with me how you handled it when
> > decided to leave, and especially what did you do about thespiritual
> > exercises? If Jesus, the Mahanta, and all the Eck Mastersnever
> > really existed, except in writers' fertile minds, thenwho/what is
> > left but God?always been the "real" aspect of my beliefs. IT is in
> > God has
> > everything, be it rocks, trees, the two-legged beings, thefour-
> > legged beings, the winged, or the swimming beings. IT is thewarm
> > Summer breeze that tickles the leaves. IT is the rain thatgives
> > and sustains life for the rooted beings. IT is everywhere instanding
> > everything. IT IS ME, and I AM IT.
> > All this being said, I don't know what to do about spiritual
> > exercises, or how to progress from here. It's like I'm
> > alone once again, and need to make a choice about what to donext.
> > If someone would care to share their experiences and choicesfrom
> > this point, I'd appreciate it. You can use my private emailif
> > you'd prefer.Prometheus for
> > Thank you all for being here, and thank you so much
> > creating this forum for people like me to find when theysearch for
> > the answers.
> > Namaste
> > Ma-li
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