4167Re: What now?
- Dec 4, 2008Hello Ma-li,
I thought I'd respond as well. For one
thing I can't recommend anything to
read, but I find many of the resources
listed on this site to be interesting.
As far as believing these and other sources
of info I don't! It's too easily to accept anything
and everything by the so called "experts." I
definitely don't buy into it or need to. Everyone
seems to be selling something for one reason
or another. The Truth is out there, is usually
subjective, and is found within by each Soul.
"Would anyone like to share with me how you
handled it when you decided to leave, and
especially what did you do about the spiritual
exercises? If Jesus, the Mahanta, and all the
Eck Masters never really existed, except in
writers' fertile minds, then who/what is
left but God?"
*ME: Well, I'd known for a long time that
many things in ECKankar just didn't make
sense and didn't add up even though I wanted
it to. I really wanted to believe in the Mahanta,
and in the initiations but it was getting tougher
every time Klemp or one of his higher H.I.s
opened his/her mouths. Klemp's nutty and
one dimensional stories didn't help either.
I found that I had to put blinders on and hold
my nose in order to swallow it in order to sound
believable to others.
However, I've always known and had proof of
Soul, the Holy Spirit or Spirit, and of GOD (WhatEver).
I don't know of the workings or of the Why and How
of many specifics outside of my realm of experience
and of those spiritual Beings that I know who walk
amongst us. I stopped my EK spiritual exercises
or at least the way I used to do them. BTW-Many
long-time H.I.s don't do real spiritual exercises
because they're too busy. Sitting outside and taking
in Nature is a very pleasant experience and I do still
HU from time to time. Ever since I left ECKankar I
can experience a Oneness with All There Is and a
Contentment that I could never achieve while under
the Stress of the EK org! It's quite amazing to give
up what you seek in order to find it! But, this is nothing
new is it?
"God has always been the "real" aspect of my
beliefs. IT is in everything, be it rocks, trees,
the two-legged beings, the four-legged beings,
the winged, or the swimming beings. IT is the
warm Summer breeze that tickles the leaves.
IT is the rain that gives and sustains life for
the rooted beings. IT is everywhere in everything.
IT IS ME, and I AM IT."
*ME: YES! IT IS! I am finding that being outside
and walking silently (no I-Pod) or sitting and
observing Nature is very contemplative and
peaceful. But, the I-Pod is nice too at times!
The past tunes take one back to one's youth
and beyond and into other times as does reading
about or watching history on TV. It's good to
know about how we became who we are and
what we think we are in order to know more
about Soul and the I AM of Beingness.
"All this being said, I don't know what to do
about spiritual exercises, or how to progress
from here. It's like I'm standing alone once again,
and need to make a choice about what to do next.
If someone would care to share their experiences
and choices from this point, I'd appreciate it. You
can use my private email if you'd prefer."
*ME: Don't do anything for now. It will come to you.
Maybe you could explore the Why? Why did you
buy into ECKankar for as long as you did? Was it
because of friends and/or the promise of God-
Realization via Initiation? Many people have trouble
giving it up and letting it go because of peer pressure.
I admit that I thought those Higher Initiations would
give clarity to it all and it did because I saw the lies
after reading Confessions of a God Seeker. And, after
I left the clarity was even greater! It finally came together
and I saw the con and the realized why there were so
many flaws and knew that Klemp had neither Powers or
a Higher Consciousness! The "WHY" is important to
me because if I didn't learn about the WHY and my
reasons for joining ECKankar then I could repeat the
same mistake again. Knowing thyself is important!
Ma-li (also) wrote:
"...Then the doubts and mental processes begin
working until he's got himself almost convinced
he really screwed up the test, but he doesn't want
to go back and change answers because he also
feels he did the best he could.
What does he do to fill the empty space?"
*ME: JUST BE! Twitchell even said this at one time
(before he took it back!). I wonder where he stole
it from? I think I read it in The Path of the Masters!
Still, it's true! The thing is.... we don't need no stinkin'
middleman/Mahanta or Religion! We are our own
Masters in the making.
When one follows another they give up their ability
to choose and to discover their own Truth. They
give up any hope of Self Mastery. Most people need
a religion to believe in when they can't believe in
Self. However, the True Seeker discovers Truth in
Everything and need Not follow anyone or any dogma.
No Thing becomes the IS of one's Beingness.
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