3768Re: HK: ARYANS Are From JUPITER!
- Sep 4, 2008Hi Etznab and All,
Yes! Eckankar has more space Gods
(i.e.ECK Masters) than they want to admit!
Gakko and Rami Nuri are from VENUS!
Dap Ren (Darwin Gross) was from
Clarion! Klemp even has this planet
mentioned in his EK Lexicon--
"CLARION. A planet where higher
evolved Souls are living to help carry
on the work of GOD throughout the
More "space-people" & Eckankar trivia.
"Eckankar was brought here from Venus
by a little known race which is living in
Agam Des, and whom we know as the
Eshwar Khanewale [last two words
in italics], or simply as the God-eaters.
These beings are members of the Ancient
Brotherhood, or Order, of the Vairagi.
They attained their name, the god-eaters,
from the fact that they absorb cosmic
energies instead of assimilating plants
and other foods." [my brackets]
Based on: Herbs The Magic Healers,
Copyright 1971, 2nd printing 1987,
p. 100 (3rd paragraph) Paul Twitchell
>Klemp is a scammer and his followers
are gullible New Age wannabes!
>How can rational and intelligent people
believe in this crap! Most ECKists came
from orthodox religions that taught
similar fiction and myth. And, these
Old Orthodox religions, as well as, the
New Age ones have complex dogmas
and glowing "spiritual" testimonials
of miracles, visitations by angels and/or
Masters, etc. just as Eckankar does!
>All religions rely upon the current
LEADER's ability to control and manipulate
the imaginations of his believers!
>I'm still wondering how Klemp can say
that the Aryan Root Race was "PLACED
HERE [earth] BY COLONISTS from JUPITER"
when in the Shariyat 1, CH 3 it states:
>"The floor of Heaven opened; and ALL
Souls went TUMBLING DOWNWARD
through the worlds, through the Planes
and Regions of light, darkness, the sounds
of the wild winds, the Universes and Heavens.
At last, Each came to rest upon the worlds
of matter--some of the newly formed
planets of VENUS, SATURN, JUPITER, and
THOSE NAMED BY MAN from this little
world of EARTH.
>Many CAME to the EARTH planet and
formed the consciousness of man in
the flesh temple of the human body,
to wear the cloth of misery and unhappiness,
and take up the burdens of karma until
at last, one day, each would be ready
to return to the heavenly home." [end]
>I don't see how Klemp "got it" that the
5th ARYAN ROOT RACE came before the
1st POLARIAN ROOT RACE and, especially,
that man was "placed here by colonists
from JUPITER." This is another dirty little
secret that EK VAHANAS can't speak of!
Another dirty little secret is that ECKists
are expected to "serve."
>Here's an interesting definition from
Klemp's Eckankar Lexicon (pg. 162):
>"POLARIANS. The First ROOT RACE
which lived in POLARA, the GARDEN
of EDEN; the ADAMIC RACE; ADOM
was the FIRST MAN and EDE, the
FIRST WOMAN; the BEGINNING of
the RACES OF MAN upon EARTH."
>It's true that Twitchell was a professional
liar and plagiarist, but Klemp is too! Twit
stole the words and ideas of others without
giving them credit. Klemp steals the stories
of spiritual experiences from chelas written
in Initiate Reports and letters in order to
use these as "inspiration" for his books that
he receives 50% royalties on!
Paul Twitchell himself seems to have messed up
when mentioning the Arayans too. Unless someone
mistranslated it to begin with.
>"[....] The destruction of the kingdom of Lemuria and
all its colonial empire came about by gas pockets under
the crust of the earth some hundreds of thousands of
years ago. It was a land of the Aryans who spread the
empire throughout the world. [....]"
>[Based on: Paul Twitchell, The Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad,
Book Two, seventh printing, 1982, p. 97 & eighth printing,
1986, p. 97 ]
>"[....] The destruction of the kingdom of Lemuria and all
its colonial empire came about by gas pockets under the
crust of the earth that formed some hundreds of thousands
of years ago. [....]"
>[Based on: Paul Twitchell, The Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad,
Book Two, Second Edition - 1988, p. 112]
>It looks like someone got rid of that reference to Arayans
in the Satya Yuga. And it only took until 1988!
> >Harold Klemp (LEM/Mahanta)
"The Wisdom Notes" SPRING 1984:
> >"... the MAHANTA, the Living ECK Master.
The world is never without him, for the line
of ECK Adepts ORIGINATED BEFORE the FIRST
ARYAN PEOPLE were placed here by colonists
> >ME: WOW! JUPITER!
> >When one looks at the definition for "ARYAN,"
in Klemp's EK LexiCON, he states that this is
the FIFTH and Current ROOT RACE!
> >People in this Current ROOT RACE, according
to Klemp, "were placed here by colonists from
> >Where are the other RACES from?
> >Is this JUPITER thing mentioned in any ECK Brochure?
I don't think sooooo!!!
> >What planets were the other "Previous" ROOT RACES
> >Was "Atlantis" a place in another Galaxy Far
Far Away? That sounds like the makings for
another Klemp story! Yawn!
> >Really! Do ECKists remember this comment that
Klemp made as a newer member of the Vairagi
Order in the Spring of 1984? I never did! It was
covered up and never mentioned again wasn't it!
> >This is how the "Law of Silence" or "take your
question to the inner" works in Eckankar!
> >P.S. Am I missing something? Were both or
just the "colonists" from JUPITER? Were the
Aryans being "placed here" (earth) from Jupiter
too, or were they from somewhere else? Did
we Aryans come from test tubes, or were we
aliens from Clarion and enslaved by the Jupiterians?
> >Shouldn't the Highest Consciousness in All
the Universes (Klemp) have access to more
of this info in order to give some clarity (excuse)
for his contradictions of information? Or, does
Klemp have his head in the clouds (or sand)
and is more focused upon those Souls residing
on the Inner Planes? LOL!
> >I must admit the JUPITER thing does sound
sort of fictional (like Star Wars or Battlefield
Earth). Lies do build upon one another! Could
it be that Klemp, early on, was influenced
by L. Ron Hubbard as much as Twitchell was!
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