3632Re: [EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous] HU CHAT Moderator - The ever so humble Dr. Brown!
- Aug 1 12:03 PMOh gee, I think every Eckist on the continent was buying Km or Matol from yet another multi-level marketer..er Eckist I mean..LOLReading the drivel from this Brown fellow, it reminds me of a long email I sent to David Lane once, I think I sounded too much like Dr. Brown when I think back. It is incredible to think how brain washed I was when I was in the clutches of Harold and his band of thieves.I should mention the David Lane was ever so polite in his response, he knew at the time there was nothing he could do to undo the brainwashing himself.I have given copies of Ford's book to the most brainwashed of Eckists I knew and they threw it out without opening a page, calling the book a test of faith from Harold and calling me a secret agent of the KAL, especially after leaving eckankar after 20 years and all those ridiculous initiations....I was not able to hear what David Lane was saying to me, I needed to time to mature before the words of Lane took hold. They only did when Ford left eckankar for I like him a lot. This Brown fellow is the same, he will evolve and discover the truth, or he won't. The ego like to cling to the 'initiations' as a badge of honor, for some it will take more time than others to really learn to seek the truth, that is just their place on the evolutionary ladder
--- On Thu, 7/31/08, prometheus_973 <prometheus_973@...> wrote:
From: prometheus_973 <prometheus_973@...>
Subject: [EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous] HU CHAT Moderator - The ever so humble Dr. Brown!
Received: Thursday, July 31, 2008, 6:34 PMHU CHAT Moderator - The ever so humble Dr. Brown!
I know Steve! I used to buy a liquid potassium
"K" supplement from him... it was nasty! Later,
Klemp put a stop to him and others selling
their wares at seminars and EK Centers.
These Eckists weren't supposed to be counting
on other Eckists in order to eek out a living.
That's Klemp's area of expertise in order
to sell his books! After all, Klemp gets 50%
royalties on all of his books even though
most are filled with the stories of his chelas!
I'll have to say that Steve writes much better
than he speaks or appears in real life! I wonder
if he thinks that he might be standing in line
to take Klemp's place someday? He's delusional
and arrogant enough to strut around and act
the part... kind of like a taller version of John
Rogers Hinkle! LOL!
p.s. Here it is again for Confessions of a God Seeker:
That's a very apt and funny description of Stephen -
"the mental giant windbag". I was tempted to thank
him for "saving" me from the clutches of the Kal, but
why encourage him.
Hi Liska, and welcome to the group!
I see the famous Dr. Stephen Brown (the mental giant,
wind bag) has attempted to grace you with his intelligence!
Don't be too perplexed or give him more of your time...
You won't accomplish anything but more drivel such as
the below. Even eckists get tired of his mental dialog!
He is basically looking at himself in the mirror, and only
his reflection is impressed with him!
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Well, enough rambling. Here's the e-mail I got from the Hu-chat
moderator. At the very least it's good for a laugh.
Liška V Drubezárne
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Letter from Stephen...
Here's the e-mail I got from the Hu-chat
moderator. At the very least it's good for a laugh.
I stand with you at a crossroads of consciousness and ask only that my
words may serve you in the name of the Great Sugmad, the Divine ECK
and the Eternal Mahanta. Face to face, eyes to eyes and heart to heart
I gaze into the depths of your being and know that my Beloved WahZ
will fill my words with his thoughts, my thoughts with his words and
my heart with all the Divine Love it can contain in this moment that I
might humbly share it with you.
Your words are like those of a child who asks "Daddy, why can't I?
Daddy, it makes no sense to me. Daddy, it won't hurt anyone. Daddy,
why? Petulant and naively certain, you fail to grasp the consequences
of your actions both to yourself and others. Yet, I am of the
gatekeepers of the High Worlds of God and faced with the
responsibility of acting with kindness and compassion that I might
embrace the rhythm that perhaps opens your heart rather than closes it.
You see, Liska, the Mahanta, the Living ECK Master, Sri Harold Klemp,
loves you as his inner form of WahZ and as his outer form of Sri
Harold Klemp. In like manner, he loves Ford Johnson as well. Yet, does
Ford return this love or does he, like a lover seemingly scorned, find
illusory solace in the clutches of blame and degradation all in the
guise of his intellectual pursuit of truth.
You see, I know Ford as do others who stood with him in the same
Circle of Initiation. We watched this being attempt to embrace the
teachings of the Great Vairagi ECK Adepts with his wonderfully
developed mental body. We watched him begin the transformation from
one who represented the Mahanta to one who represented himself. We
watched his on the stage and in person as he demonstrated "the more
than you" factor that left audiences with the memory of his greatness
and uniqueness and not that of the wondrous relationship of the
Mahanta with them.
We were the knowing ones who patiently and unconditionally loved our
Brother, accepted him for who he is and surrendered each perception to
Divine Spirit, ever seeing him as Soul even when the transparency of
his mental approach to the teachings of ECK within Eckankar were so
puzzlingly evident to us. Like many who have turned from the House of
the Mahanta, Ford is oblivious to his having done so, believing in his
mind that its subtle protestations about the reality of this teaching
is the frame of reference against which he judges it.
Ford Johnson is a wonderful being, one who has chosen to continue his
exploration of the Lower Worlds and to do so without accepting the
Mahanta's great Love as the sum and substance of his being. He cannot
now fathom the great secret that there is no difference between the
Inner Master and the Outer Master and that his rejection of the Outer
Master is his rejection of the Inner Master. Yet, this Soul, whose
book seems to fascinate you, is not content with simply turning
himself from the Mahanta, but feels compelled to bring his personal
viewpoint, his compulsive identification with it as "the reality" and
insure that all who are as he has concluded "manipulated and deluded"
by the premises upon which the teachings of the Godman, Sri Harold
Klemp, are built, are "saved" by him and his book.
Ford was a Higher Initiate, empowered with spiritual responsibilities
and given great gifts of consciousness so that he might serve as a
Coworker with the Great Mahanta, WahZ. He evidenced, as you, a lack of
discernment in his reaction to things and his choices both for
himself, which is fine, and for others, which is not. He wrote to Sri
Harold Klemp of a Second Initiate in the UK whom Ford believed was now
the true Mahanta. Ford was disturbed by Sri Harold's response that he
take a year off from his spiritual responsibilities and read the
Shariyats. Unaware of the profound blessing of direct communication
from this great Vairagi ECK Master, Ford was unable to open his heart
in gratitude but instead gauged the gift according to his mind.
You ask me why dear one and I now respond. Go within the temple of
your being and there humbly sing your word or the HU and ask to
understand these words. Do not bring your opinion to the inner sanctum
of your being or your mental craving for truth, for it will elude the
mind at every turn and leave you only with your own concept of it, as
it did Ford Johnson. You who desire truth, bend before its
responsibility and thus humbled by its majesty, observe it as
yourself. For, you must become the truth you seek and cannot find it
between the covers of any book written by another, even the Godman.
Do not ask me to assist you in casting shadows upon the great Light of
the Mahanta. If there is turmoil within your world and you desire to
give your precious attention to the confusion of another, Ford
Johnson, then do so with my blessings as that is of your concern
alone. Yet, you will not do so on this forum for that is my
responsibility. If you choose to struggle with truth, with the reality
of the Mahanta and to allow Ford Johnson's illusions to enter into
your house of consciousness, you are free to do so. Yet, I will not
support this and have no desire to examine it as I have met the
Vairagi Masters, traveled consciously to the Golden Wisdom Temples and
come to know the reality of all that exists as my own truth.
Do you see Liska, it is not necessary for one who drinks the Holy
Water and quenches his thirst through experience, to wander aimlessly
within the concepts of another who is no longer aware that he is even
thirsty. Remember, you who are loved by the Mahanta, that it is this
love for which you truly seek. Do not place your concepts of It as
prison bars upon Its limitless and eternal nature, for in doing so, as
with Ford, it is you who become imprisoned. In conclusion and in the
finality of my time and attention given to this subject, why would I
or any other student of WahZ seek to explore the confused ramblings of
one whose mind emerged victorious in his conflict this lifetime
between it and himself as Soul.
I wish you well Liska. No one has banned you from this forum. Yet,
until you demonstrate Viveka, you will remain on moderated status, as
is everyone who first joins this forum. I have given you a great gift.
Do with it as you will. Whatever choice you make, you are never apart
from the love of this being whom Ford rejects. It is as always, your
choice to accept or reject this love so unconditionally given by the
Mahanta, the Living ECK Master, Sri Harold Klemp.
Go with the Love of the Sugmad, the ECK and the Mahanta.
Stephen (the humble)
WOW! What Bull Shit!!!
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