354Re: Klemp Distorts ......
- Aug 8, 2005Hi Freefrom,
I enjoyed your response. We seem to think and sound much alike.
Sometimes, I think that semantics just points out our uniqueness and
individual experiences as we sort it all out for deeper insights
into the big WHY?
--- In EckankarSurvivorsAnonymous@yahoogroups.com, "Freefrom"
> Prometheus wrote...On another note... I'm amazed at how some people (Eckists, and other
cultists) are still constantly making assumptions, jumping to
erroneous conclusions, and are still rationalizing! And, some of
these people are even "former" Eckists! You'd think that being in
Eckankar for 25-35 years would have taught them to be more cautious
and to look (very closely) before leaping into other fires of
deception! Some people, it seems, just never learn and seem to
welcome their daily delusions as a way of life! Amazing! But, just
look at how many of these cults and religions (sects too) are out
there! They either feed on people's fears or offer food for their
egos or both it would seem!
> Freefrom:I agree whole heartedly, but I will have to admit that I find myself
at times being drawn back into similar cultic and religious beliefs
before I finally do a reality check and realize I'm going down that
path away from my own common sense. I think a lot of it has to do
with family members and "friends" still being involved with
eckankrap. It is a little bit like an addiction and that magical
thinking from childhood. Experiences of mine have shown me that
there is some truth to spirituality and psychic stuff that does
happen, IMO. The problem is when you attribute it all to One org
like eeck! (g)
***Yes, it is only natural that one replaces one habit with another
or one religion with another. There is a void that needs to be
filled. However, with time, Soul fills that void with a greater
knowledge of Its own idenity and purpose (happiness/contentment?).
One needs to have time to get to know OneSelf when a relationship
has ended. There needs to be time for healing and re-evaluation and
contemplation... one needs to "chill" for awhile. New and greater
experiences await those who are free of the dogma and prejudical
beliefs that were mapped out and programed into us for those self-
fulling expectations. And, yes there is some truth to the spiritual
and psychic stuff that we and others experience, but only some of it
is Truth for the individual while only some of it is Truth for us
all! No one path or religion has Truth! Actually, if one would take
everything written by everyone they would still not find Truth! This
may sound like a given, but look at how many people hang onto the
words of those they see as "experts" or "Masters!"
> I have often thought that it may be closer to the truth that Godis an "Athiest" or a "non believer", in that it does not matter so
much what the dogma is. As far as ego goes, it has occured to me
that as ego expands in a good way to be all inclusive, it may not
disappear exactly, but my experience becomes more flexible, lighter
and adaptable. Just my take on things. I also notice that the dogma,
such as eck becomes more transparent and loses it's influence. It is
just another belief system after all. IMO Truth does not need
defending or to be forced.*
***Yes, "God" (IMO) IS! Therefore, how can a total awareness of all
that IS lower that awareness to belief and especially to limited or
inaccurate beliefs? I'm certain, however, that "God" understands our
little escapades (but we don't!) since it all eventually leads to an
awareness of the innate cause for why we search for happiness. It is
a longing (Soul has) to return to the absolute reality of Being
(ISNESS)! Religions, cults and other scams are distractions that
pacify and take (trap) our minds (and egos) into "safe" and "secure"
little boxes. The (a) reality is that life is more fragile than we
can handle, and thus the need for the ego to protect with
distractions and delusions!
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